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Why are you conflating Adderall with all or any stimulants? Might as well throw in caffeine and sugar as things that "even at low doses increase the dopamine in

Why are you conflating Adderall with all or any stimulants? Might as well throw in caffeine and sugar as things that "even at low doses increase the dopamine in the brain and lead to a mild high". Not disagreeing with you wrt atomexetine but really should compare apples to apples.

operatingthetan 4y ago
You're right. I wasn't as careful as I could be, my intention was to cover common ADHD stimulants: adderall, ritalin, vyvanse, etc. Basically any of them that gives you a quick boost of dopamine and are addictive. I'm not a smart psychopharmacology guy, just have a lot of experience with stimulants. Perhaps ask for clarification instead of throwing out 'conflating' next time though?
rozal 4y ago
Adderall is an amphetamine. It's a hard drug. And methamphetamine are closely related. Taking small doses of this, essentially macrodosing, it's not good in the long term.
- brazzledazzle 4y ago
  The long term health impacts of taking prescription stimulants at recommended doses for on-label management of disorders is well understood and extensively studied/documented. There's not a psychiatrist that's not going to take this and other factors into consideration when prescribing it and any decent one is going to discuss medication breaks with their patients they prescribe them to. Prescription stimulants aren't perfect but it's currently the most effective treatment that's broadly applicable and well-tolerated. A lot of people are critical of prescription stimulants without presenting a comparable alternative that will allow disordered people (particularly adults) to maintain the ability to function, be productive and maintain happiness in our current society with it's expectations and capability requirements.
  - rozal 4y ago
    The alternative is easting healthy organic foods, pasture raised meats, and exercise. Even weed/DMT/LSD is loads better than 'adhd' medication - and might actually change your way of thinking.

operatingthetan 4y ago

You're right. I wasn't as careful as I could be, my intention was to cover common ADHD stimulants: adderall, ritalin, vyvanse, etc. Basically any of them that gives you a quick boost of dopamine and are addictive. I'm not a smart psychopharmacology guy, just have a lot of experience with stimulants. Perhaps ask for clarification instead of throwing out 'conflating' next time though?

rozal 4y ago

Adderall is an amphetamine. It's a hard drug. And methamphetamine are closely related. Taking small doses of this, essentially macrodosing, it's not good in the long term.

brazzledazzle 4y ago
The long term health impacts of taking prescription stimulants at recommended doses for on-label management of disorders is well understood and extensively studied/documented. There's not a psychiatrist that's not going to take this and other factors into consideration when prescribing it and any decent one is going to discuss medication breaks with their patients they prescribe them to. Prescription stimulants aren't perfect but it's currently the most effective treatment that's broadly applicable and well-tolerated. A lot of people are critical of prescription stimulants without presenting a comparable alternative that will allow disordered people (particularly adults) to maintain the ability to function, be productive and maintain happiness in our current society with it's expectations and capability requirements.
- rozal 4y ago
  The alternative is easting healthy organic foods, pasture raised meats, and exercise. Even weed/DMT/LSD is loads better than 'adhd' medication - and might actually change your way of thinking.