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Interesting, but how many people are going to upload things they really shouldn't? ... You retain ownership of any PDF documents you upload to AskYourPdf. By

Interesting, but how many people are going to upload things they really shouldn't? ... You retain ownership of any PDF documents you upload to AskYourPdf. By uploading PDF documents to AskYourPdf, you grant AskYourPdf a non-exclusive, worldwide, royalty-free license to use, modify, reproduce, and distribute the PDF documents for the purpose of providing the AskYourPdf web application ...

aaronharnly 4y ago
Yikes.
- Spivak 4y ago
  That is the legal jargon required for them to ingest, index, and display the PDF you upload back to you.
  - ke88y 4y ago
    It is legal jargon that gives them the right to do that, but it also gives them a lot of other rights. If they only wanted to display the PDF back to you, they could affect that meaning very easily.
    - meltedcapacitor 4y ago
      bad actors are not gonna be stopped by their own "legal jargon"... the terms look like copy pasta or AI generated themselves. can't imagine the operators spent much time reading them. though maybe true bad actors would try harder to pretend being a company with some humans involved, rather than this openly anonymous site.
    - Bjartr 4y ago
      > they could affect that meaning very easily. Not using phrasing thst has already been tested in court is easy, but fraught. If someone sues you because of a reasonable thing you did to display a document and you have this phrasing. It's open and shut because someone else has already litigated it and so there's legal precedent. If you use different phrasing and someone sues you, there's a greater chance you'll have an actual drawn out court case to convince a judge that your phrasing means what you wanted it to mean. Remember, the meaning of words and phrases in a legal context can differ almost arbitrarily from what they mean in a conversational one. As a business owner that just wants to get on and provide a service that displays a pdf you got sent, which do you go with, the one that lets your resources go to providing the service you intend to provide, or the one where there's a greater chance your resources will get tied up in a legal battle for the sake of making the terms almost no-one reads anyway a little nicer?
tiedieconderoga 4y ago
Since you mention it, I have heard several of my friends and colleagues saying that they think ChatGPT could be their lawyer, doctor, and tax prep advisor if only they could send it documents for review.
xkcd-sucks 4y ago
> purpose of providing the AskYourPdf web application For the purpose of funding it as a free service by selling upload content or derived metrics :)
yazzku 4y ago
Everybody upload your tax documents and start asking questions! /s

aaronharnly 4y ago

Yikes.

Spivak 4y ago
That is the legal jargon required for them to ingest, index, and display the PDF you upload back to you.
- ke88y 4y ago
  It is legal jargon that gives them the right to do that, but it also gives them a lot of other rights. If they only wanted to display the PDF back to you, they could affect that meaning very easily.
  - meltedcapacitor 4y ago
    bad actors are not gonna be stopped by their own "legal jargon"... the terms look like copy pasta or AI generated themselves. can't imagine the operators spent much time reading them. though maybe true bad actors would try harder to pretend being a company with some humans involved, rather than this openly anonymous site.
  - Bjartr 4y ago
    > they could affect that meaning very easily. Not using phrasing thst has already been tested in court is easy, but fraught. If someone sues you because of a reasonable thing you did to display a document and you have this phrasing. It's open and shut because someone else has already litigated it and so there's legal precedent. If you use different phrasing and someone sues you, there's a greater chance you'll have an actual drawn out court case to convince a judge that your phrasing means what you wanted it to mean. Remember, the meaning of words and phrases in a legal context can differ almost arbitrarily from what they mean in a conversational one. As a business owner that just wants to get on and provide a service that displays a pdf you got sent, which do you go with, the one that lets your resources go to providing the service you intend to provide, or the one where there's a greater chance your resources will get tied up in a legal battle for the sake of making the terms almost no-one reads anyway a little nicer?

tiedieconderoga 4y ago

Since you mention it, I have heard several of my friends and colleagues saying that they think ChatGPT could be their lawyer, doctor, and tax prep advisor if only they could send it documents for review.

xkcd-sucks 4y ago

> purpose of providing the AskYourPdf web application For the purpose of funding it as a free service by selling upload content or derived metrics :)

yazzku 4y ago

Everybody upload your tax documents and start asking questions! /s