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We kind of have. Buy a new mac today and you can run a 40 year old sh program fine. Its just that most people aren't being trained on these standard unchanging

by asdff 4y ago

We kind of have. Buy a new mac today and you can run a 40 year old sh program fine. Its just that most people aren't being trained on these standard unchanging technologies in computing unless they take an active interest in it. They are being trained on $newapp and how to navigate $newwebsite and become beholden to those patterns of software design sensibilities, because in this attention economy this obviously generates a lot more money than having the masses use some simple bash code to solve a lot of their problems.

perardi 4y ago
…do you really think that a bash script is the best interface for the masses to explore the Talmud?
- eddieroger 4y ago
  Certainly not on Friday night or Saturday, unless they open it ahead of time and leave it there. Maybe we can train Shabbas goys to use bash.
- asdff 4y ago
  It only seems ridiculous framed from the modern perspective on computing. Ask this in 1995 and yes, this would be the best interface. The only reason why its no good anymore is because these abstraction layers we shovel into people. Maybe in 2005 the best way to view the talmud was a gui based native app, because thats the level of abstraction layer people where shoveled versus the command line. Maybe in 2015 the best way moved from a native app to a website, since thats now how most people operate by then, not installing tools themselves but just going to different websites and therefore losing that knowledge. Maybe today the best way is a mobile app, because people don't even visit desktop websites anymore and don't take well to those design philosophies. You have to wonder where this is marching off too, this march away from complexity into easier and simpler abstractions, further from the magic and raising the ivory tower of the wizard who makes these tools higher above the masses who increasingly have no idea what is happening nor any mental model to think about this stuff as it actually works. Certainly some groups benefit from siloing the knowledge of fire of our modern world, but I can't help but imagine we are all losing in this race away from complexity.
- ChatGTP 4y ago
  Why not?
- carlitossway 4y ago
  It might be unfashionable to say these days, but... "the masses who explore the Talmud" have a much higher bar to jump than "the Masses".
- pvillano 4y ago
  No, but a static website would be just as future proof

by asdff 4y ago

perardi 4y ago

…do you really think that a bash script is the best interface for the masses to explore the Talmud?

eddieroger 4y ago
Certainly not on Friday night or Saturday, unless they open it ahead of time and leave it there. Maybe we can train Shabbas goys to use bash.
asdff 4y ago
It only seems ridiculous framed from the modern perspective on computing. Ask this in 1995 and yes, this would be the best interface. The only reason why its no good anymore is because these abstraction layers we shovel into people. Maybe in 2005 the best way to view the talmud was a gui based native app, because thats the level of abstraction layer people where shoveled versus the command line. Maybe in 2015 the best way moved from a native app to a website, since thats now how most people operate by then, not installing tools themselves but just going to different websites and therefore losing that knowledge. Maybe today the best way is a mobile app, because people don't even visit desktop websites anymore and don't take well to those design philosophies. You have to wonder where this is marching off too, this march away from complexity into easier and simpler abstractions, further from the magic and raising the ivory tower of the wizard who makes these tools higher above the masses who increasingly have no idea what is happening nor any mental model to think about this stuff as it actually works. Certainly some groups benefit from siloing the knowledge of fire of our modern world, but I can't help but imagine we are all losing in this race away from complexity.
ChatGTP 4y ago
Why not?
carlitossway 4y ago
It might be unfashionable to say these days, but... "the masses who explore the Talmud" have a much higher bar to jump than "the Masses".
pvillano 4y ago
No, but a static website would be just as future proof