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If someone puts classified information into Quizlet, that constitutes spillage whether they set it to private or not. Sometimes this kind of thing needs to be
by warner25 4y ago
If someone puts classified information into Quizlet, that constitutes spillage whether they set it to private or not.
Sometimes this kind of thing needs to be explained even to very senior people, not just lowly troops. I knew of a four-star general asking a few years ago why we didn't use Signal for stuff instead of Teams (O365 tenant hosted in Microsoft's Government Community Cloud), because he "heard that it's so secure that even the NSA can't break it." The answer is that there's a difference between a system being "secure" and being accredited for classified information or even unclassified information that the government owns.
Edited to add: Another very senior DoD person actually got in trouble for using Signal for official business a couple years ago because, among other reasons, there's no way for the government comply with FOIA when someone is using a personal account on a commercial application like that.
- vuln 4y ago> Edited to add: Another very senior DoD person actually got in trouble for using Signal for official business a couple years ago because, among other reasons, there's no way for the government comply with FOIA when someone is using a personal account on a commercial application like that. Do you have any additional information on the punishment? The precedence has been set that “no reasonable prosecutor “ would prosecute someone over using personal servers/apps/out band communication to subvert FOIA and National Security. > Although we did not find clear evidence that Secretary Clinton or her colleagues intended to violate laws governing the handling of classified information, there is evidence that they were extremely careless in their handling of very sensitive, highly classified information. > Although there is evidence of potential violations of the statutes regarding the handling of classified information, our judgment is that no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case. https://www.fbi.gov/news/press-releases/statement-by-fbi-director-james-b-comey-on-the-investigation-of-secretary-hillary-clinton2019s-use-of-a-personal-e-mail-system https://www.fbi.gov/news/press-releases/statement-by-fbi-dir...
- ambicapter 4y agoYour quoted text doesn't reflect the sentence you use to introduce it > there is evidence that they were extremely careless in their handling of very sensitive, highly classified information. is not the same thing as > using personal servers/apps/out band communication to subvert FOIA
- boomboomsubban 4y agohttps://www.nextgov.com/cxo-briefing/2021/06/defense-digital-service-director-used-signal-violation-pentagon-policy-ig-says/174879/ https://www.nextgov.com/cxo-briefing/2021/06/defense-digital... He stepped down, and my quick search doesn't show him actually facing punishment. And his case was different, as some members of staff did believe he was encouraging use of Signal to prevent FOIA strikes.
- warner25 4y agoYeah, I have no inside knowledge, but it certainly looks like nothing in the way of criminal punishment. From various articles, it sounds like he only intended to do a two-year term, and he actually stayed in the position a few months after that while the investigation was taking place. He stepped down before the report was finally published: https://media.defense.gov/2021/Jun/21/2002745247/-1/-1/1/DODIG-2021-092.PDF https://media.defense.gov/2021/Jun/21/2002745247/-1/-1/1/DOD... Per his LinkedIn page, he went straight to what is probably a cushy job at Vanderbilt University. Interesting career path, by the way. He was "Director of IT at OpenTable" for seven years, and then did four years as a "Police Officer" in the Chicago PD before going back to IT stuff there.
- Spooky23 4y agoProsecutorial discretion does not have precedent.
- iamerroragent 4y agoI'd like some toasted hombres with a nice big fat slab of butter please.