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I thought I'd miss CarPlay, but the charger/dock is right under the screen and perfectly visible; so if I need to run an app on my phone it's right there anyway

I thought I'd miss CarPlay, but the charger/dock is right under the screen and perfectly visible; so if I need to run an app on my phone it's right there anyways - easy to see and control. Hey Siri works fine for me as well. CarPlay just seems like a bandaid on bad car software, which still isn't well tied into the car's climate controls or other settings anyway so you have this weird half and half experience.

katbyte 4y ago
Does Tesla support GaiaGPS? Overcast? Audiable? Emby? The thing that makes CarPlay and android auto great is anyone can write software that pops up on the infotainment screen. I will never get a vehicle that doesn’t have it again.
- bottlepalm 4y ago
  I can run those apps on my phone and see them fine from the charger/dock right under the screen. https://www.notateslaapp.com/images/news/2022/wireless-charger.jpg https://www.notateslaapp.com/images/news/2022/wireless-charg...
  - alistairSH 4y ago
    That's kind of not the point. Having those apps run on the main screen has advantages... - touchscreen is easier to access - screen is bigger - screen is better placed (less eye movement = safer)
    - bottlepalm 4y ago
      For media apps at least, they can be controlled fine from the buttons to the steering wheel, no need to take your eyes off the road. Any navigation app you're going to have to look over anyways. I've used Waze in a Tesla, didn't take me any more time to look at that than the map on the upper screen.
      - alistairSH 4y ago
        The steering wheel is going to control an app running natively in the phone (which is sitting in a cradle, and not linked by CP/AA)? That's what the post above mine was asserting worked well.
        brokenmachine 4y ago
        My car steering wheel controls control my phone over bluetooth fine, at least for skipping and pausing.
  - katbyte 4y ago
    That has nothing to do with Tesla thou. You can put a phone mount anywhere you want in any vehicle. The discussion is around Tesla vs CarPlay
- frumper 4y ago
  GM is reversing course and making their own system and will no longer support CarPlay. Manufacturers want the subscription money and control, I wouldn't be surprised if more pull back. https://www.motorauthority.com/news/1139243_gm-to-phase-out-apple-carplay-in-evs-chooses-google https://www.motorauthority.com/news/1139243_gm-to-phase-out-...
  - webinvest 4y ago
    They want the data
  - solfox 4y ago
    Precisely. And consumers lose out.
ddoolin 4y ago
That makes me wonder if there's any development on deeper integration into car systems going on for future models.
alistairSH 4y ago
Why does the climate control need to be in the same UI as the entertainment or nav? My Honda has physical buttons for HVAC and that's just fine. What are use cases for fully-integrating the entertainment/nav into the rest of the car? The only one I can think of is coupling nav to battery state management in EVs (and yeah, that's a BIG one).
- bottlepalm 4y ago
  There's all kinds of integrations - my app can control the climate, the cameras are integrated with data where I can see a live feed of my dog in the Tesla from the app. Physical buttons can't change, while Tesla is constantly improving the UI for things. Hell even watching YouTube in the Tesla will automatically turn off the headlights. Tesla's software isn't just 'infotainment' it extends to controllers across the entire vehicle - all can be improved with software updates.
  - brokenmachine 4y ago
    >watching YouTube in the Tesla will automatically turn off the headlights Now I'm picturing a Tesla kool-aid drinker driving down the highway with their fully self beta ludicrous speed engaged, watching youtube with their headlights off. Don't worry, they'll fix it in the next update...
- solfox 4y ago
  In fact I believe there have been studies showing how positively dangerous making everything controlled by a touch screen is. I’m calling it - 10 years from now, a car company will roll out “physical controls” as a feature and it will be heralded as a great advancement in usability.

katbyte 4y ago

Does Tesla support GaiaGPS? Overcast? Audiable? Emby? The thing that makes CarPlay and android auto great is anyone can write software that pops up on the infotainment screen. I will never get a vehicle that doesn’t have it again.

bottlepalm 4y ago
I can run those apps on my phone and see them fine from the charger/dock right under the screen. https://www.notateslaapp.com/images/news/2022/wireless-charger.jpg https://www.notateslaapp.com/images/news/2022/wireless-charg...
- alistairSH 4y ago
  That's kind of not the point. Having those apps run on the main screen has advantages... - touchscreen is easier to access - screen is bigger - screen is better placed (less eye movement = safer)
  - bottlepalm 4y ago
    For media apps at least, they can be controlled fine from the buttons to the steering wheel, no need to take your eyes off the road. Any navigation app you're going to have to look over anyways. I've used Waze in a Tesla, didn't take me any more time to look at that than the map on the upper screen.
    - alistairSH 4y ago
      The steering wheel is going to control an app running natively in the phone (which is sitting in a cradle, and not linked by CP/AA)? That's what the post above mine was asserting worked well.
      - brokenmachine 4y ago
        My car steering wheel controls control my phone over bluetooth fine, at least for skipping and pausing.
- katbyte 4y ago
  That has nothing to do with Tesla thou. You can put a phone mount anywhere you want in any vehicle. The discussion is around Tesla vs CarPlay
frumper 4y ago
GM is reversing course and making their own system and will no longer support CarPlay. Manufacturers want the subscription money and control, I wouldn't be surprised if more pull back. https://www.motorauthority.com/news/1139243_gm-to-phase-out-apple-carplay-in-evs-chooses-google https://www.motorauthority.com/news/1139243_gm-to-phase-out-...
- webinvest 4y ago
  They want the data
- solfox 4y ago
  Precisely. And consumers lose out.

ddoolin 4y ago

That makes me wonder if there's any development on deeper integration into car systems going on for future models.

alistairSH 4y ago

Why does the climate control need to be in the same UI as the entertainment or nav? My Honda has physical buttons for HVAC and that's just fine. What are use cases for fully-integrating the entertainment/nav into the rest of the car? The only one I can think of is coupling nav to battery state management in EVs (and yeah, that's a BIG one).

bottlepalm 4y ago
There's all kinds of integrations - my app can control the climate, the cameras are integrated with data where I can see a live feed of my dog in the Tesla from the app. Physical buttons can't change, while Tesla is constantly improving the UI for things. Hell even watching YouTube in the Tesla will automatically turn off the headlights. Tesla's software isn't just 'infotainment' it extends to controllers across the entire vehicle - all can be improved with software updates.
- brokenmachine 4y ago
  >watching YouTube in the Tesla will automatically turn off the headlights Now I'm picturing a Tesla kool-aid drinker driving down the highway with their fully self beta ludicrous speed engaged, watching youtube with their headlights off. Don't worry, they'll fix it in the next update...
solfox 4y ago
In fact I believe there have been studies showing how positively dangerous making everything controlled by a touch screen is. I’m calling it - 10 years from now, a car company will roll out “physical controls” as a feature and it will be heralded as a great advancement in usability.