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Man, what a coincidence. My neighbor across the street just bought a Tesla this weekend. Having just returned from driving Hyundai IONIQ 5s, I of course scurrie

Man, what a coincidence. My neighbor across the street just bought a Tesla this weekend. Having just returned from driving Hyundai IONIQ 5s, I of course scurried over to check it out. He's thinking about returning it. Why? No parking sensors. Seriously, that's the reason he gave, unprompted from me. He seems otherwise happy with the car, but for this sole feature he might take it back. IONIQ 5 has parking sensors, BTW. Yes, I pointed this out to my neighbor. :-)

barbazoo 4y ago
Is the Tesla more difficult to park than other cars for some reason? I'm asking because I've never had parking sensors or that cool "bird's eye view" and thought I was fine.
- Krasnol 4y ago
  That's not the point. Parking sensors are pretty much standard in this price range, and have been for quite a while.
  - grecy 4y ago
    > Parking sensors are pretty much standard in this price range, and have been for quite a while And all "smart phones" had keyboards for quite a while before suddenly they were just gone. Just because a feature is standard in an industry, that is not reason alone to mean it should stay.
    - Krasnol 4y ago
      @OPs comment: Keyboard has not been replaced by nothing. OP says he uses nothing. ------------------ @the topic: physical keyboard has not been replaced by some random character generator. The on-display keyboard does at least the same job as the physical one. This new camera thing not only does less, it does it much worse.
- mikestew 4y ago
  The use case of my neighbor is apparently backing into his garage. Though also mentioned something about sensing the garage door behind him (to make sure he pulled in far enough?). So I'm not exactly sure why it's important to him, but it's a big feature for him, at least. As for parking, I'd let actual owners comment, but as I was sitting in the front seat, yeah, there's blind spots like a lot of modern cars, but not so much that sensors would be a requirement for me personally. Backup camera would be good enough for my purposes.
- judge2020 4y ago
  It's generally easier to back in since you have the side repeater cameras that automatically come up whenever you enter reverse, so if you are pulling to a garage, you have room if you can see the back of the garage (your only check after that is to ensure your mirrors don't hit the sides of the house next to the garage door opening).
- abracadaniel 4y ago
  It is a pretty wide car, and super chargers require you to back in. Visibility isn’t great out the windows or mirrors because you’re expected to use the cameras. The parking sensors covered the blind spots via the same screen you’re already looking at for the cameras and UI for it was really impressive. It was honestly one of the nicest things about the car.
mangosteenjuice 4y ago
How is he going to return it? IIRC Tesla got rid of the return policy some time during the pandemic.
- mikestew 4y ago
  Oh, yet another feature Tesla removed? :-) Yeah, I don't know anything about that process. I'll pass it on that he might want to check that policy (though a bit late now, I guess). Thanks for the heads-up.
- lelag 4y ago
  In Europe, you have 14 days to return a good you ordered online. That includes a Tesla.
  - adriancr 4y ago
    I'd be cautious of that statement, that's not true in some countries for car purchases or if you purchased on premise.
Tempest1981 4y ago
It's fun to see the IONIQ 5 on the road. The Model 3 design is getting rather old. I'm hoping they create an IONIQ 5 option that lets you program animations on the LED taillight grid. Start with space invaders.
- brokenmachine 4y ago
  I've always wanted a car with a moving LED messageboard on the back, "STAY BACK!... FURTHER!!"

barbazoo 4y ago

Is the Tesla more difficult to park than other cars for some reason? I'm asking because I've never had parking sensors or that cool "bird's eye view" and thought I was fine.

Krasnol 4y ago
That's not the point. Parking sensors are pretty much standard in this price range, and have been for quite a while.
- grecy 4y ago
  > Parking sensors are pretty much standard in this price range, and have been for quite a while And all "smart phones" had keyboards for quite a while before suddenly they were just gone. Just because a feature is standard in an industry, that is not reason alone to mean it should stay.
  - Krasnol 4y ago
    @OPs comment: Keyboard has not been replaced by nothing. OP says he uses nothing. ------------------ @the topic: physical keyboard has not been replaced by some random character generator. The on-display keyboard does at least the same job as the physical one. This new camera thing not only does less, it does it much worse.
mikestew 4y ago
The use case of my neighbor is apparently backing into his garage. Though also mentioned something about sensing the garage door behind him (to make sure he pulled in far enough?). So I'm not exactly sure why it's important to him, but it's a big feature for him, at least. As for parking, I'd let actual owners comment, but as I was sitting in the front seat, yeah, there's blind spots like a lot of modern cars, but not so much that sensors would be a requirement for me personally. Backup camera would be good enough for my purposes.
judge2020 4y ago
It's generally easier to back in since you have the side repeater cameras that automatically come up whenever you enter reverse, so if you are pulling to a garage, you have room if you can see the back of the garage (your only check after that is to ensure your mirrors don't hit the sides of the house next to the garage door opening).
abracadaniel 4y ago
It is a pretty wide car, and super chargers require you to back in. Visibility isn’t great out the windows or mirrors because you’re expected to use the cameras. The parking sensors covered the blind spots via the same screen you’re already looking at for the cameras and UI for it was really impressive. It was honestly one of the nicest things about the car.

mangosteenjuice 4y ago

How is he going to return it? IIRC Tesla got rid of the return policy some time during the pandemic.

mikestew 4y ago
Oh, yet another feature Tesla removed? :-) Yeah, I don't know anything about that process. I'll pass it on that he might want to check that policy (though a bit late now, I guess). Thanks for the heads-up.
lelag 4y ago
In Europe, you have 14 days to return a good you ordered online. That includes a Tesla.
- adriancr 4y ago
  I'd be cautious of that statement, that's not true in some countries for car purchases or if you purchased on premise.

Tempest1981 4y ago

It's fun to see the IONIQ 5 on the road. The Model 3 design is getting rather old. I'm hoping they create an IONIQ 5 option that lets you program animations on the LED taillight grid. Start with space invaders.

brokenmachine 4y ago
I've always wanted a car with a moving LED messageboard on the back, "STAY BACK!... FURTHER!!"