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A Brief History of Semiconductor Packaging [video]

99 points by zdw 4y ago

genmud 4y ago
Sam Zeloof had a great video on how he wire bonded an IC that he made [1]. IIRC He also recently started a semiconductor company as well, which is awesome to see more folks in the space! [1] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvZ1dJuvenw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvZ1dJuvenw
hardware2win 4y ago
I knew who will be the author basing just on the title and the platform This channel is unparallelled
- automatic6131 4y ago
  +1, Asianometry is underrated
- formerly_proven 4y ago
  Asianometry is kind of interesting because on the one hand, if you were to make a presentation like he does in a school you'd obviously fail the class and get an F (blatant plagiarism, unsourced, no media attribution, pls put coins in my patreon), if you did this in university it'd even be grounds for being expelled (probably needs doing it at least twice though). On the other hand if you look at the comments he's inspiring a few people to go into this field and many people who wouldn't engage with these topics at all otherwise, do. And these two groups don't care about the mistakes either, one doesn't really need to, the other will actually learn the stuff anyway. So I guess this makes him a net positive, even if his conduct as a "youtube creator" is rather disgusting (which is pretty much par for the course on that site obviously).
  - deleted 4y ago
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  - asianometry 4y ago
    That was hard for me to read. I’ll try to do better.
    - chairmanwow1 4y ago
      Sources would be great, but honestly not sure I would read to much into this assessment. Idk what your background is, but if I had to guess you did research for a financial firm that sold memos or a were a consultant. Information you present seems high quality and it may all be available on the internet, but I wouldn’t be surprised if you had to talk to people offline because it’s not just on wikipedia. All this to say, I fucking love your channel because it is well-researched. Honestly in my first read of GP’s comment, I was expecting him to critique our academic institutions for being unable to reward such content.
    - wholinator2 4y ago
      Seems like their only real complaint is lack of sources, which i understand. But i also understand that there's probably dozens if not hundreds of sources for videos like this and things like where the images come from are also implied based on the specific company that's being discussed at the time. But other than like a source doc in the description, i think if you gave this presentation at my school you'd get engaged and interested discussion, and a few marks off for sources, but this is a youtube doc. The rest of us really liked the video, and that other guy will probably just find something else to complain about if you fix the source. I think that rather than trying to be perfect, it's much more important that you continue to make videos in a way that is sustainable for you. Like, if you make perfectly sourced videos but only ever have the time and energy for 3 more then that's on the whole a loss compared to whatever you were going to do anyway. Anyways, it's very late, hope that made sense. Love the videos
    - HopenHeyHi 4y ago
      Here is an easier one to read: You're actually doing very well, keep going.
    - unixhero 4y ago
      Focus on the praise you are receiving in this thread instead. That whole comment was irrelevant anyhow. Thanks for an enjoyable and informative episode!
  - kushie 4y ago
    What's the alternative to education in this subject? What's the purpose of comparing it to professional education? I work in a fab and never learned this history. I've encountered a single person outside of work with interest in my industry and it's because he watches this channel. I think this comment is sour on youtube for education, which sucks, because youtube is one of the most accessible tools for education today.
  - causi 4y ago
    you'd obviously fail the class and get an F Why is this even on one of your hands? It's not a scientific paper, it's not a product he's selling, it's an informative youtube video. Whining about a youtube video not citing sources because it's not a valid classroom project makes as much sense as complaining that it's in English so you couldn't air it on Telemundo. It's completely irrelevant. If you're talking to someone and he tells you an interesting story do you go "Oh that was really cool, but you didn't tell me exactly where you learned all the details of the story, so that really detracted from my experience of listening to you"?
  - jecel 4y ago
    Having watched hundreds of academic presentations and been at many technical conferences, I don't agree. If you compare a paper published in a conference's proceedings with the corresponding oral presentation (which is what his videos are) there tends to be a difference. The worst presentations are those that try to copy/paste the paper into PowerPoint resulting in walls of text and those are the most likely to have a references slide. The ad for the newsletter is very reasonable for the venue (Youtube) and if it would be unacceptable in a different context, like showing the videos in a classroom, that is not the author's fault.
zakary 4y ago
Easily one of my favourite YouTube channels. I once sent him an email suggestion for a topic I like (MEMS) and a little while later I get an email back from him with a link to a video he made based on the suggestion. He’s not a professional academic, so it doesn’t need to be a written like a phd dissertation. But as a ratio of entertainment/information, these videos are fantastic.
- alimov 4y ago
  The videos are highly informative and entertaining, he’s a real gem.

99 points by zdw 4y ago

Sam Zeloof had a great video on how he wire bonded an IC that he made [1]. IIRC He also recently started a semiconductor company as well, which is awesome to see more folks in the space! [1] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvZ1dJuvenw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvZ1dJuvenw

hardware2win 4y ago

I knew who will be the author basing just on the title and the platform This channel is unparallelled

automatic6131 4y ago
+1, Asianometry is underrated
formerly_proven 4y ago
Asianometry is kind of interesting because on the one hand, if you were to make a presentation like he does in a school you'd obviously fail the class and get an F (blatant plagiarism, unsourced, no media attribution, pls put coins in my patreon), if you did this in university it'd even be grounds for being expelled (probably needs doing it at least twice though). On the other hand if you look at the comments he's inspiring a few people to go into this field and many people who wouldn't engage with these topics at all otherwise, do. And these two groups don't care about the mistakes either, one doesn't really need to, the other will actually learn the stuff anyway. So I guess this makes him a net positive, even if his conduct as a "youtube creator" is rather disgusting (which is pretty much par for the course on that site obviously).
- deleted 4y ago
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- asianometry 4y ago
  That was hard for me to read. I’ll try to do better.
  - chairmanwow1 4y ago
    Sources would be great, but honestly not sure I would read to much into this assessment. Idk what your background is, but if I had to guess you did research for a financial firm that sold memos or a were a consultant. Information you present seems high quality and it may all be available on the internet, but I wouldn’t be surprised if you had to talk to people offline because it’s not just on wikipedia. All this to say, I fucking love your channel because it is well-researched. Honestly in my first read of GP’s comment, I was expecting him to critique our academic institutions for being unable to reward such content.
  - wholinator2 4y ago
    Seems like their only real complaint is lack of sources, which i understand. But i also understand that there's probably dozens if not hundreds of sources for videos like this and things like where the images come from are also implied based on the specific company that's being discussed at the time. But other than like a source doc in the description, i think if you gave this presentation at my school you'd get engaged and interested discussion, and a few marks off for sources, but this is a youtube doc. The rest of us really liked the video, and that other guy will probably just find something else to complain about if you fix the source. I think that rather than trying to be perfect, it's much more important that you continue to make videos in a way that is sustainable for you. Like, if you make perfectly sourced videos but only ever have the time and energy for 3 more then that's on the whole a loss compared to whatever you were going to do anyway. Anyways, it's very late, hope that made sense. Love the videos
  - HopenHeyHi 4y ago
    Here is an easier one to read: You're actually doing very well, keep going.
  - unixhero 4y ago
    Focus on the praise you are receiving in this thread instead. That whole comment was irrelevant anyhow. Thanks for an enjoyable and informative episode!
- kushie 4y ago
  What's the alternative to education in this subject? What's the purpose of comparing it to professional education? I work in a fab and never learned this history. I've encountered a single person outside of work with interest in my industry and it's because he watches this channel. I think this comment is sour on youtube for education, which sucks, because youtube is one of the most accessible tools for education today.
- causi 4y ago
  you'd obviously fail the class and get an F Why is this even on one of your hands? It's not a scientific paper, it's not a product he's selling, it's an informative youtube video. Whining about a youtube video not citing sources because it's not a valid classroom project makes as much sense as complaining that it's in English so you couldn't air it on Telemundo. It's completely irrelevant. If you're talking to someone and he tells you an interesting story do you go "Oh that was really cool, but you didn't tell me exactly where you learned all the details of the story, so that really detracted from my experience of listening to you"?
- jecel 4y ago
  Having watched hundreds of academic presentations and been at many technical conferences, I don't agree. If you compare a paper published in a conference's proceedings with the corresponding oral presentation (which is what his videos are) there tends to be a difference. The worst presentations are those that try to copy/paste the paper into PowerPoint resulting in walls of text and those are the most likely to have a references slide. The ad for the newsletter is very reasonable for the venue (Youtube) and if it would be unacceptable in a different context, like showing the videos in a classroom, that is not the author's fault.

zakary 4y ago

Easily one of my favourite YouTube channels. I once sent him an email suggestion for a topic I like (MEMS) and a little while later I get an email back from him with a link to a video he made based on the suggestion. He’s not a professional academic, so it doesn’t need to be a written like a phd dissertation. But as a ratio of entertainment/information, these videos are fantastic.

alimov 4y ago
The videos are highly informative and entertaining, he’s a real gem.