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The cat is already out of the bag on that one. You can download several open source text to image AIs and run them on your own computer. You can train new style

The cat is already out of the bag on that one. You can download several open source text to image AIs and run them on your own computer. You can train new styles and concepts on your own computer in about 20 minutes. You can throw up roadblocks for the big players, but it’s far too spread out to ever be contained again. Ditto for LLMs. Obviously GPT-4 is the best game in town, but I have several LLMs and the code required to use them installed on several machines. Training new data for them can close the gap quite well at the expense of becoming less general. We can’t regulate our way out of this one. That window closed a while ago.

jacquesm 4y ago
You can rob banks too... doesn't make it legal.
- actsasbuffoon 4y ago
  If I rob a bank then you can tell. If I make an AI model on my own computer and train it, how would you ever know? It won’t have a “signature” that can be detected by any kind of AI detection system because I’m the only person who knows it exists. You can make it illegal if you like, but you’ll never be able to enforce it. And other countries are not obligated to follow suit, and will have significant competitive advantages as a result.
  - jacquesm 4y ago
    There are plenty of things that you could do 'on the sly' that are illegal. That's doesn't mean they're not illegal, and that doesn't mean that if you are found out (which is hard but not always impossible) that you will be punished. Given that there are plenty of legal ways of making money, why would you pick an illegal one just because you (think you) can? The boundaries of the law are rarely set at what you think you can get away with, but are usually set on some other principle and in between that line and the point where you exist there is plenty of room for prosecution. The jails contain lots of people who thought they 'could get away with it'. Don't be one of those.
  - ISL 4y ago
    At ~$150k per willfully-infringed work, infringement at scale gets expensive real quick. Do you feel lucky? What if a specific version of Stable Diffusion is found to be infringing and there's a way to back-attribute an image to it? https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/17/504 https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/17/504

jacquesm 4y ago

You can rob banks too... doesn't make it legal.

actsasbuffoon 4y ago
If I rob a bank then you can tell. If I make an AI model on my own computer and train it, how would you ever know? It won’t have a “signature” that can be detected by any kind of AI detection system because I’m the only person who knows it exists. You can make it illegal if you like, but you’ll never be able to enforce it. And other countries are not obligated to follow suit, and will have significant competitive advantages as a result.
- jacquesm 4y ago
  There are plenty of things that you could do 'on the sly' that are illegal. That's doesn't mean they're not illegal, and that doesn't mean that if you are found out (which is hard but not always impossible) that you will be punished. Given that there are plenty of legal ways of making money, why would you pick an illegal one just because you (think you) can? The boundaries of the law are rarely set at what you think you can get away with, but are usually set on some other principle and in between that line and the point where you exist there is plenty of room for prosecution. The jails contain lots of people who thought they 'could get away with it'. Don't be one of those.
- ISL 4y ago
  At ~$150k per willfully-infringed work, infringement at scale gets expensive real quick. Do you feel lucky? What if a specific version of Stable Diffusion is found to be infringing and there's a way to back-attribute an image to it? https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/17/504 https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/17/504