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It is whataboutism. There are no saints in this world.

• boomskats 4y ago
  It's as much a case of whataboutism as your statement is of ignoratio elenchi. That's not to say that I don't agree with your second statement. However, global geopolitics is far more complicated than how it tends to be presented to the general population, especially at times of war, and I don't think the OP asked the question in a malicious or dismissive way. We shouldn't be so quick to dismiss arguments as fallacies just because they don't line up with our point of view.
  • tejohnso 4y ago
    > I don't think the OP asked the question in a malicious or dismissive way You're right I didn't ask in a malicious or dismissive way. And I don't see why my question was flagged. I'm not making an argument, I'm just asking a question of someone who has more involvement than I have and may have something interesting to say on the matter. I guess I can't even ask a question if it mentions detail that goes against the accepted western narrative. Not here anyway.
    • slaw 4y ago
      I agree with what you wrote, I only tried to point that your comment, even if valid is not related to Finland joining NATO.
      • tejohnso 4y ago
        > your comment...is not related to Finland joining NATO. Neither was the post I was responding to. It was about the situation in Ukraine, Zelenskyy, Putin, Russia, Crimea, and their historical context. Someone submitted their opinion on all of that, and I asked them about their opinion on some further detail related to all of that.
        • slaw 4y ago
          That's true. Asking questions against mainstream thinking are not welcomed here.