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Why are you cherry picking immigrant groups? What are the statistics for Poles, Italians, Russian Germans? Heck, what are the statistics for Vietnamese Germans
by oblio 4y ago
Why are you cherry picking immigrant groups?
What are the statistics for Poles, Italians, Russian Germans? Heck, what are the statistics for Vietnamese Germans?
The US has plenty of minority and immigrant groups for which convergence is... far from happening.
- geodel 4y ago> What are the statistics for Poles, Italians, Russian Germans? Maybe find and share, if you looking to refute the point.
- oblio 4y agoI don't have the numbers but what I can share is that Vietnamese are considered a model minority in several European countries, including some not famous for their integration policies, such as Czechia. So the fact that Vietnamese Americans are doing well is not some weird thing.
- dtheodor 4y agoHe is not cherry picking, he picked the largest immigrant group, twice as large as the next one
- rootusrootus 4y agoBy what metric is Vietnamese the largest immigrant group? The largest is easily Mexico, and I don't see that Vietnam cracks the top 5, and maybe not the top 10.
- illiac786 4y agoThe largest immigrant group in Germany is Turkish people, that's what was said.
- oblio 4y agoI could also pick the biggest minority group in the US, and trust me, Turks have a much better life in Germany.
- rayiner 4y agoThe largest minority group in the US is Hispanics. White Americans have a median household income 36% higher than the median household income of Hispanics. The median income of Germans is almost double the median income of Turkish Germans.
- type0 4y agoThere are different kind of Hispanics in US and they are treated differently Why don't Americans put all German speakers into the same group as well and call them Germanics?
- woobar 4y agoPer capita income for Poles, Italians, Russian, and Germans is higher than median US per capita income. [1] Household income of these four groups is also higher than median household income. [2] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_the_United_States_by_per_capita_income https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_the_U... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_the_United_States_by_household_income https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_the_U...
- dragonwriter 4y ago> Per capita income for Poles, Italians, Russian, and Germans is higher than median US per capita income. US per capita income is higher than US median personal income (that’s what happens with concentrated-at-the-top instead of normal distributions.) But you probably mean “mean” rather than “median” since that’s what your source actually provides.
- woobar 4y agoI am not sure you looked at my sources. Direct quotes: "The following median per capita income data..."/"The following median household income data..." Household income is higher than per capita for all groups.
- carlosjobim 4y agoTurks in Germany is not "cherry picking" - they are one of the largest immigrant groups and have been immigrating to Germany for much longer than other big groups.
- rayiner 4y ago> Why are you cherry picking immigrant groups? I picked large, visible minority immigrant groups that have been in their destination country for more than a generation. > What are the statistics for Poles, Italians, Russian Germans? There’s far fewer of those than Turks, and many are ethnic Germans to begin with. > The US has plenty of minority and immigrant groups for which convergence is... far from happening There’s only two: black people and indigenous people, neither of which are immigrant groups. Economic migrants go the US, such as Germans, Italians, and Irish, all economically assimilated decades ago. Hispanics are on the same track: https://academic.oup.com/qje/article/135/2/711/5687353 https://academic.oup.com/qje/article/135/2/711/5687353.