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> it is a Linux-first device as well It is a Windows-first device with an option not to have operating system and vibrant Linux community.

by slaw 4y ago

dhruvmittal 4y ago
As a Framework laptop Linux user: I agree-- it's really not a Linux-first device, but they have done some work after launch to make the device more Linux-friendly. They've brought on dedicated staff for Linux support (Matt Hartley) and utilized LVFS to deliver seamless firmware updates. They've also continued to address Linux specific hardware/firmware bugs, which many companies prefer not to deal with. I'm really hoping to see this Linux-friendliness continue with out-of-the-gate support for their new releases, particularly the GPU situation on the 16". It's certainly laudable to respond quickly to the enthusiast community, but it's even better to launch products with some level of testing on major distros.
commoner 4y ago
Framework is doing a good job narrowing the gap between its level of support for Windows and Linux. The Framework Laptop now officially supports 2 distros, Fedora and Ubuntu. https://frame.work/linux https://frame.work/linux
tomrod 4y ago
I gave it a go. The device runs very hot and hardware has random glitches (despite a full main board replacement) regardless whether Windows or Linux. Once they get QA up and built, I anticipate trying again. Until then, if the keyboard remains too hot to use comfortably its sort of a no-go.
- snapplebobapple 4y ago
  I have one of the first batches and I just recently bought a 12th gen and I can say QA. Is definitely noticeably better now vs the early batches to the point I would say it is on par with other mainstream offerings (while being way more interesting)
heresie-dabord 4y ago
> an option not to have operating system I see no use in splitting this follicle. The explicit option not to have an OS installed is intended for Linux users. I installed Linux and all the hardware works as intended.
- JeremyNT 4y ago
  Consider that larger vendors ship with Linux distributions pre-installed, and provide support for them. Being open to people installing Linux isn't exactly the same thing as shipping it, even if the "support" some of those larger vendors provide is of questionable value.

> it is a Linux-first device as well It is a Windows-first device with an option not to have operating system and vibrant Linux community.

by slaw 4y ago

> it is a Linux-first device as well It is a Windows-first device with an option not to have operating system and vibrant Linux community.

dhruvmittal 4y ago

As a Framework laptop Linux user: I agree-- it's really not a Linux-first device, but they have done some work after launch to make the device more Linux-friendly. They've brought on dedicated staff for Linux support (Matt Hartley) and utilized LVFS to deliver seamless firmware updates. They've also continued to address Linux specific hardware/firmware bugs, which many companies prefer not to deal with. I'm really hoping to see this Linux-friendliness continue with out-of-the-gate support for their new releases, particularly the GPU situation on the 16". It's certainly laudable to respond quickly to the enthusiast community, but it's even better to launch products with some level of testing on major distros.

commoner 4y ago

Framework is doing a good job narrowing the gap between its level of support for Windows and Linux. The Framework Laptop now officially supports 2 distros, Fedora and Ubuntu. https://frame.work/linux https://frame.work/linux

tomrod 4y ago

I gave it a go. The device runs very hot and hardware has random glitches (despite a full main board replacement) regardless whether Windows or Linux. Once they get QA up and built, I anticipate trying again. Until then, if the keyboard remains too hot to use comfortably its sort of a no-go.

snapplebobapple 4y ago
I have one of the first batches and I just recently bought a 12th gen and I can say QA. Is definitely noticeably better now vs the early batches to the point I would say it is on par with other mainstream offerings (while being way more interesting)

heresie-dabord 4y ago

> an option not to have operating system I see no use in splitting this follicle. The explicit option not to have an OS installed is intended for Linux users. I installed Linux and all the hardware works as intended.

JeremyNT 4y ago
Consider that larger vendors ship with Linux distributions pre-installed, and provide support for them. Being open to people installing Linux isn't exactly the same thing as shipping it, even if the "support" some of those larger vendors provide is of questionable value.