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If you read the whole article, that's not because Rafael Luque was using ChatGPT to churn out papers, but because he was lending his name to research papers don

If you read the whole article, that's not because Rafael Luque was using ChatGPT to churn out papers, but because he was lending his name to research papers done in Saudi Arabia and Chinese universities.

Alifatisk 4y ago
I am aware of that and did not state otherwise, I just had to point it out. I even said "even if this is unrelated to the story"...
JumpCrisscross 4y ago
> that's not because Rafael Luque was using ChatGPT to churn out papers, but because he was lending his name to research papers done in Saudi Arabia and Chinese universities ...who were using even worse models to churn out papers about "vegetative electron microscopy."
catchnear4321 4y ago
> Without me, the University of Córdoba will drop 300 places in the Shanghai ranking. They have shot themselves in the foot While that was the issue that the university took with him, the extra logos on his lab coat, why does the university care about him? Why is he valuable? Numbers. He boosts numbers with bullshit. Numbers that are misinterpreted to indicate value. And he’s gotten good at bullshit. He’s even incorporated ChatGPT into his workflow. So good at it that entities paid him to try and sneak some extra logos on his lab coat. He’s smart. He likely found ways to never accept money and yet fully utilize it for his benefit. This all matters. The system is fractally broken.
- pvaldes 4y ago
  An equivalent would be to claim that you work for Apple when you have a full time contract with Microsoft. On the other hand this game has been played before. Everybody knows in Spanish speaking science that just adding one researcher from the Anglosphere with a nice English name to the list of authors is a seal of approval for many journals, and will open a lot of doors even if the researcher just agreed to sign on the paper.

Alifatisk 4y ago

I am aware of that and did not state otherwise, I just had to point it out. I even said "even if this is unrelated to the story"...

JumpCrisscross 4y ago

> that's not because Rafael Luque was using ChatGPT to churn out papers, but because he was lending his name to research papers done in Saudi Arabia and Chinese universities ...who were using even worse models to churn out papers about "vegetative electron microscopy."

catchnear4321 4y ago

> Without me, the University of Córdoba will drop 300 places in the Shanghai ranking. They have shot themselves in the foot While that was the issue that the university took with him, the extra logos on his lab coat, why does the university care about him? Why is he valuable? Numbers. He boosts numbers with bullshit. Numbers that are misinterpreted to indicate value. And he’s gotten good at bullshit. He’s even incorporated ChatGPT into his workflow. So good at it that entities paid him to try and sneak some extra logos on his lab coat. He’s smart. He likely found ways to never accept money and yet fully utilize it for his benefit. This all matters. The system is fractally broken.

pvaldes 4y ago
An equivalent would be to claim that you work for Apple when you have a full time contract with Microsoft. On the other hand this game has been played before. Everybody knows in Spanish speaking science that just adding one researcher from the Anglosphere with a nice English name to the list of authors is a seal of approval for many journals, and will open a lot of doors even if the researcher just agreed to sign on the paper.