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Nobody is demanding anything of NATO. I am retroactively demanding that the Ukrainian leadership should have rooted out corruption and got Ukraine’s ducks in a
by IgorPartola 4y ago
Nobody is demanding anything of NATO. I am retroactively demanding that the Ukrainian leadership should have rooted out corruption and got Ukraine’s ducks in a row so that it could join NATO. And the whole point of NATO is that most smaller countries do not benefit NATO as much as the alliance benefits them. Yet the cumulative effect is more world peace.
Besides, did you not notice the effect the war in Ukraine had on things like gas prices in the US?
- bshipp 4y agoUkraine's inability to root out corruption so that it could join the EU/NATO wasn't some national failing as much as a very active Russian FSB/SVR presence inside Ukraine that prevented any significant reforms. The invasion was an admittance that their underhanded techniques were failing and a more active method of intervention into Ukrainian politics was necessary.
- rendall 4y agoI'm pretty certain that it was Ukraine's increasingly successful campaigns to purge its corruption that prompted Russia to invade.
- bshipp 4y agoAbsolutely correct. Reading my post, I realize my conclusion was unclear: each successive elimination of corruption within Ukraine, starting in the 2010's, was more and more threatening to Putin and his oligarch cronies until pressure on their theft of oil revenues become unbearable.
- Animatronio 4y ago[flagged]
- khochesh_kushat 4y agoBy demanding, you mean requesting?
- Animatronio 4y agoObviously "requesting" is a much better word. However, the gist of my comment was they are trying really hard to sell the idea that their membership is beneficial to NATO (which I believe it most definitely is not).
- khochesh_kushat 4y agoWell, they believe it is, and so do many people in NATO (and many disagree also). I still don't understand what the gist of calling requesting demanding is meant to convey.
- Animatronio 4y agoIt is meant to convey my annoyance at the shrill tone of incessant Ukr requests that used to come in ten times a day...