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> The returns are diminishing Always has been. Buying top of the line technology is paying an early adopter penalty. People talk about FPS (frames per second)

> The returns are diminishing Always has been. Buying top of the line technology is paying an early adopter penalty. People talk about FPS (frames per second) with gaming PC's and I think its an unnoticeable arms race about numbers. If the human eye can't observe more than 60 FPS and you aren't playing competitively (aka professionally) what will that extra FPS boost get you? Paying for bragging rights (ironic observation for gamers)?

stnmtn 4y ago
I agree that there are diminishing returns, but I can promise you that it's easy to stop a difference between 60 FPS and 144 FPS if you have a 144hz monitor. I don't think anyone actually believes that 60 FPS is the "limit of the human eye" Paying for that difference makes sense for some games/genres. For some that doesn't matter.
- guhidalg 4y ago
  Seconded. Fast games specially benefit from >60Hz refresh rates. My wife has a 300Hz laptop and playing OW2 on it is amazing, I can track shots better and I can do quick flick shots better than on a 60Hz monitor.
- mywittyname 4y ago
  Yeah you can. One of the dumbest things I did was spend too much money on a nice pair of 4k@60hz monitors for computer, then mount a 4k@120hz OLED TV right next to them for couch gaming. The quality difference is staggering. Even on games that only run at 80-90fps.
bloqs 4y ago
I've extensively tested framerates and times across a lot of monitors over the years. The 60FPS human eye limit is either incorrect, or the display of frames on a monitor affects how movement interpolation is handled. After about 160Hz/FPS you start to not be able to tell the difference. The difference between 60hz and 120hz is night and day. The difference between 120hz and 144hz is noticably better, the difference between 144hz and 165hz is very slightly better, the difference between 165hz and 240hz is not really noticable, the difference between 240hz and 360hz is imperceptible.

stnmtn 4y ago

I agree that there are diminishing returns, but I can promise you that it's easy to stop a difference between 60 FPS and 144 FPS if you have a 144hz monitor. I don't think anyone actually believes that 60 FPS is the "limit of the human eye" Paying for that difference makes sense for some games/genres. For some that doesn't matter.

guhidalg 4y ago
Seconded. Fast games specially benefit from >60Hz refresh rates. My wife has a 300Hz laptop and playing OW2 on it is amazing, I can track shots better and I can do quick flick shots better than on a 60Hz monitor.
mywittyname 4y ago
Yeah you can. One of the dumbest things I did was spend too much money on a nice pair of 4k@60hz monitors for computer, then mount a 4k@120hz OLED TV right next to them for couch gaming. The quality difference is staggering. Even on games that only run at 80-90fps.

bloqs 4y ago

I've extensively tested framerates and times across a lot of monitors over the years. The 60FPS human eye limit is either incorrect, or the display of frames on a monitor affects how movement interpolation is handled. After about 160Hz/FPS you start to not be able to tell the difference. The difference between 60hz and 120hz is night and day. The difference between 120hz and 144hz is noticably better, the difference between 144hz and 165hz is very slightly better, the difference between 165hz and 240hz is not really noticable, the difference between 240hz and 360hz is imperceptible.