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4 years ago I bought a maxed out (except storage) MBP 15" for ~3.5k EUR. A similarly specced machine now is 4.7k EUR, and a maxed out (except storage) one is 5.

by wasyl 4y ago

4 years ago I bought a maxed out (except storage) MBP 15" for ~3.5k EUR. A similarly specced machine now is 4.7k EUR, and a maxed out (except storage) one is 5.2k EUR. I'd really want to upgrade to a machine with M chip but with current prices I can't reasonably justify that. Instead, I got a PC with 8c/16t Ryzen with similar performance in my workload for fraction of the price, and simply use the MBP only when needed ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

mgraupner 4y ago
For 3600€ you could get the M2 Pro 16" with 32 GB RAM and 1 TB SSD which is a much faster machine than the on you bought 4 years ago, even if the specs might not have changed that much. Could not argue about the price of a Ryzen, can't beat that. :)
- codedokode 4y ago
  I am surprised that you pay the price of 7 ordinary laptops and get only 32 Gb of RAM and only 1 Tb of storage.
  - mgraupner 4y ago
    Why would you compare the price of an ordinary laptop with that of an extraordinary one? People buy Mercedes and not Lada Niva for a reason my friend, even though both of them can drive. ;)
victorbstan 4y ago
Agree with this sentiment. Many years ago I bought a maxed out MacBook Pro for about ~ $3000 CAD and now the prices go up to ~ $6000. Technology is supposed to get better and cheaper over time. They really are trying to squeeze every cent out of consumers they can. There’s also another side to it. I think a big “buyer” of apple hardware were startups and tech companies that were providing these machines to their employees. With the tech layoff and freezes in hiring this should impact the number of Macs purchased, I suspect.
- dividedbyzero 4y ago
  Not just startups and tech companies, lots of boring non-tech enterprises offer Macs too for technical roles because you lose out on good candidates if you can't offer Macs. This side of the pond (Europe) those are also way more likely to allow employees to upgrade after a few years.
  - eastbound 4y ago
    You speak in general terms but you’re in a bubble. Here in my bubble, a tech valley in the South of France, developers have to be convinced to switch to Mac. “Sounds awesome but will I be able to get used to the new shortcuts?” is the general question. Where are you from? I’d rather hire from your pool than mine (and I pay 20-30% above market range).
    - pdimitar 4y ago
      Not your parent poster but I'm from Eastern Europe and I'm using Macs for 3 years now and can't be convinced to go back to Linux. Mac is just much less troublesome. As I'm aging and (hopefully) becoming a senior dev, I'm getting more and more focused and want to immediately attack the problems I'm paid to solve, and not endlessly fighting and fine-tuning my machines. I might be wanting to get back to work soon. Hit me up if you need a seasoned dev.

by wasyl 4y ago

mgraupner 4y ago

For 3600€ you could get the M2 Pro 16" with 32 GB RAM and 1 TB SSD which is a much faster machine than the on you bought 4 years ago, even if the specs might not have changed that much. Could not argue about the price of a Ryzen, can't beat that. :)

codedokode 4y ago
I am surprised that you pay the price of 7 ordinary laptops and get only 32 Gb of RAM and only 1 Tb of storage.
- mgraupner 4y ago
  Why would you compare the price of an ordinary laptop with that of an extraordinary one? People buy Mercedes and not Lada Niva for a reason my friend, even though both of them can drive. ;)

victorbstan 4y ago

Agree with this sentiment. Many years ago I bought a maxed out MacBook Pro for about ~ $3000 CAD and now the prices go up to ~ $6000. Technology is supposed to get better and cheaper over time. They really are trying to squeeze every cent out of consumers they can. There’s also another side to it. I think a big “buyer” of apple hardware were startups and tech companies that were providing these machines to their employees. With the tech layoff and freezes in hiring this should impact the number of Macs purchased, I suspect.

dividedbyzero 4y ago
Not just startups and tech companies, lots of boring non-tech enterprises offer Macs too for technical roles because you lose out on good candidates if you can't offer Macs. This side of the pond (Europe) those are also way more likely to allow employees to upgrade after a few years.
- eastbound 4y ago
  You speak in general terms but you’re in a bubble. Here in my bubble, a tech valley in the South of France, developers have to be convinced to switch to Mac. “Sounds awesome but will I be able to get used to the new shortcuts?” is the general question. Where are you from? I’d rather hire from your pool than mine (and I pay 20-30% above market range).
  - pdimitar 4y ago
    Not your parent poster but I'm from Eastern Europe and I'm using Macs for 3 years now and can't be convinced to go back to Linux. Mac is just much less troublesome. As I'm aging and (hopefully) becoming a senior dev, I'm getting more and more focused and want to immediately attack the problems I'm paid to solve, and not endlessly fighting and fine-tuning my machines. I might be wanting to get back to work soon. Hit me up if you need a seasoned dev.