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>The cheapest iPhone 14 starts at a bit over €1000. The cheapest iPhone they sell you is the SE, a phone with a low-res, dim display, that's worse than what An

>The cheapest iPhone 14 starts at a bit over €1000. The cheapest iPhone they sell you is the SE, a phone with a low-res, dim display, that's worse than what Android phones had 10 years ago (have the SE from work and my dusty old 2012 Samsung Note 2's OLED display just blows it out of the water), all starting at a whopping 549 Euros, more than my rent. Apple's pricing is just nuts in Europe. For up to 399 I might give it a pass, but at 549 they're just taking the mickey. The iPad 9 was also a pretty good deal at ~380 Euros until they replaced it with the iPad 10 at ~540 Euros. Absolutely mental. It fells they're pulling "an Nvidia" on us and just jacking up the prices for no reason.

makingstuffs 4y ago
I 100% agree about the hardware but I have to say the selling point of apple is the OS. I have an iPhone SE 2020 and the screen broke. This caused me to use my QA device (Samsung S21+) while I returned to the city from the mountains. It was a horrendous experience. The camera is unquestionably better in the Samsung but that is about all the positives I could take from my week of using it. Android was just an abysmal experience from my perspective. Nothing on it seems intuitive and everything feels like a ploy to get you to use a product which will siphon your data off to Google. Obviously this is just my own personal anecdotal experience so take it with a pinch of salt. But there will no doubt be others feeling the same. I miss my old 3310 if I am honest. I’ve been looking at dumb phones recently. I just need one with WhatApp so I can talk to my family around the world ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
- seized 4y ago
  Pixels are IME the Android equal to iPhones. Much cleaner and nicer experience than Samsung.
  - FullyFunctional 4y ago
    Security is not remotely comparable. Google couldn't even be bother to fix the glaring Wifi attack that their _own_ team found. I would be scared to own an Android phone, even a Pixel. Reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBxBUIoeNYo&t=603s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBxBUIoeNYo&t=603s
- WastingMyTime89 4y ago
  > Android was just an abysmal experience from my perspective. I'm always amused by this kind of comment. I have been from ios to Android back to ios in the last few years. The two of them are so similar nowadays it's laughable. The UX is nearly identical.
  - makingstuffs 4y ago
    It really isn’t, take WhatsApp as an example. The UI on android is literally completely different to that of iOS.

makingstuffs 4y ago

I 100% agree about the hardware but I have to say the selling point of apple is the OS. I have an iPhone SE 2020 and the screen broke. This caused me to use my QA device (Samsung S21+) while I returned to the city from the mountains. It was a horrendous experience. The camera is unquestionably better in the Samsung but that is about all the positives I could take from my week of using it. Android was just an abysmal experience from my perspective. Nothing on it seems intuitive and everything feels like a ploy to get you to use a product which will siphon your data off to Google. Obviously this is just my own personal anecdotal experience so take it with a pinch of salt. But there will no doubt be others feeling the same. I miss my old 3310 if I am honest. I’ve been looking at dumb phones recently. I just need one with WhatApp so I can talk to my family around the world ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

seized 4y ago
Pixels are IME the Android equal to iPhones. Much cleaner and nicer experience than Samsung.
- FullyFunctional 4y ago
  Security is not remotely comparable. Google couldn't even be bother to fix the glaring Wifi attack that their _own_ team found. I would be scared to own an Android phone, even a Pixel. Reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBxBUIoeNYo&t=603s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBxBUIoeNYo&t=603s
WastingMyTime89 4y ago
> Android was just an abysmal experience from my perspective. I'm always amused by this kind of comment. I have been from ios to Android back to ios in the last few years. The two of them are so similar nowadays it's laughable. The UX is nearly identical.
- makingstuffs 4y ago
  It really isn’t, take WhatsApp as an example. The UI on android is literally completely different to that of iOS.