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Currently, Midjourney lets users invite the Midjourney bot to their own private Discord server/channel, where no one else can see the images they generate using

Currently, Midjourney lets users invite the Midjourney bot to their own private Discord server/channel, where no one else can see the images they generate using that bot. There's no reason that Midjourney couldn't allow whatever content the user wants to be generated there, as other Midjourney users would not be able to see it. But they insist on censoring Midjourney even in channels/servers inaccessible to the wider Midjourney audience. Why?

marcinzm 4y ago
If they did this then they would likely be legally liable for generating child porn in certain countries including the US. And even if it's just regular porn then their credit card processors would ban them and so would any corporate clients. So in the end it's a question of what you censor and not if you censor things.
aenvoker 4y ago
Hi. I’m a volunteer Midjourney content moderator. They don’t pay me. I’m under no obligation to make them look good. The team behind MJ are a bunch of overly-nice people. The work very hard night and day to help people bring art into the world. When they see their hard work resulting in porn, gore, gross-out or hate material, it is very discouraging. It’s not material they want to collaborate on. It’s not what they want to work so hard to help bring into the world. Someone else can work to create communities for that.
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- lostmsu 4y ago
  Quite a lot of blood in the world was spilled by people with "nice" intentions. Limiting art is one of the worst things one could do, IMHO.
- CapricornNoble 4y ago
  >> When they see their hard work resulting in porn, gore, gross-out or hate material, it is very discouraging. It’s not material they want to collaborate on. This seems like a fundamental failure to understand humans. One of my favorite Renaissance artists arguably produced gore/gross-out material for his time. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Triumph_of_Death https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Triumph_of_Death
  - aenvoker 4y ago
    I handle most of the moderation of violence and gore. That painting would get a user a message about the violence and gore guidelines, but that’s all. The guidelines are all about avoiding visceral reaction from the viewer. Not visceral like “The war my people endured was horrible”. Visceral like “oh god my face is torn off”, “me punching my girlfriend” or “politician I don’t like not just in hell, but explicitly burning and screaming and suffering painfully in hell.” We get a lot of death metal fans, 80’s schlock movie fans and a few horror artists that I get to talk to regularly. Pretty much everyone is pretty chill and agrees the guidelines are a good thing for the community. And, the few that don’t agree with MJ’s terms of service are free to do whatever they want elsewhere using Stable Diffusion.
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marcinzm 4y ago

If they did this then they would likely be legally liable for generating child porn in certain countries including the US. And even if it's just regular porn then their credit card processors would ban them and so would any corporate clients. So in the end it's a question of what you censor and not if you censor things.

aenvoker 4y ago

Hi. I’m a volunteer Midjourney content moderator. They don’t pay me. I’m under no obligation to make them look good. The team behind MJ are a bunch of overly-nice people. The work very hard night and day to help people bring art into the world. When they see their hard work resulting in porn, gore, gross-out or hate material, it is very discouraging. It’s not material they want to collaborate on. It’s not what they want to work so hard to help bring into the world. Someone else can work to create communities for that.

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lostmsu 4y ago
Quite a lot of blood in the world was spilled by people with "nice" intentions. Limiting art is one of the worst things one could do, IMHO.
CapricornNoble 4y ago
>> When they see their hard work resulting in porn, gore, gross-out or hate material, it is very discouraging. It’s not material they want to collaborate on. This seems like a fundamental failure to understand humans. One of my favorite Renaissance artists arguably produced gore/gross-out material for his time. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Triumph_of_Death https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Triumph_of_Death
- aenvoker 4y ago
  I handle most of the moderation of violence and gore. That painting would get a user a message about the violence and gore guidelines, but that’s all. The guidelines are all about avoiding visceral reaction from the viewer. Not visceral like “The war my people endured was horrible”. Visceral like “oh god my face is torn off”, “me punching my girlfriend” or “politician I don’t like not just in hell, but explicitly burning and screaming and suffering painfully in hell.” We get a lot of death metal fans, 80’s schlock movie fans and a few horror artists that I get to talk to regularly. Pretty much everyone is pretty chill and agrees the guidelines are a good thing for the community. And, the few that don’t agree with MJ’s terms of service are free to do whatever they want elsewhere using Stable Diffusion.
  - talkaboutit 4y ago
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