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I remember buying a Macbook Pro a long time ago (I want to say around 6 years ago? Back in the dark Ive days...) and I can relatively confidently say that it's

by samhuk 4y ago

I remember buying a Macbook Pro a long time ago (I want to say around 6 years ago? Back in the dark Ive days...) and I can relatively confidently say that it's always been approximately this bad. Inflation plus mental factors are likely the trick that's playing on some folk's mind. They always charged e.g. 200$ for memory increments and 400$/800$ for storage increments, IIRC.

gambiting 4y ago
TBF Dell is equally as bad if not worse. A 128GB ram upgrade on my Precision 7670 has been £1800. It's insane.
- dandy23 4y ago
  For a Dell you can buy that RAM from anywhere.
  - gambiting 4y ago
    Except you can't because their new precision workstations use their own new proprietary format. You can only buy it from Dell. They said they will make a SO-DIMM adapter but it doesn't support 128GB.
masklinn 4y ago
The Apple tax on ram and storage has always been ridiculous, but a long long time ago in a galaxy far away you could use aftermarket RAM and drives, and batteries even used to be removable (and give easy access to RAM and drive, on the old polycarbonate macbooks). On my 2010 I could even replace the DVD drive by an aftermarket drive caddy. With soldered ram and drives, Apple’s the only game in town, and that means the Apple tax is a lot dearer.
- germinalphrase 4y ago
  "The Apple tax on ram and storage has always been ridiculous, but a long long time ago in a galaxy far away you could use aftermarket RAM and drives, and batteries even used to be removable (and give easy access to RAM and drive, on the old polycarbonate macbooks). On my 2010 I could even replace the DVD drive by an aftermarket drive caddy." Those were the good days. I loved dropping dual SSDs and additional RAM in my MBP. I harvested guts from broken ones off craigslist and kept it going for about 13 years before it finally kicked out.
- sokoloff 4y ago
  I’m agreeing with you on the absurdity now; this weekend though, I happened to click through to a video of a guy who upgraded the RAM on a MacBook Air. The video title isn’t clickbait; he did it successfully, but it was a pretty advanced project (as in "let me put the circuit board on my rework preheater to get started") https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxbVxaScZQ4 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxbVxaScZQ4
- zarzavat 4y ago
  Software also uses a lot more RAM than it did 10 years ago. 10 years ago I lived easily inside 8GB with all native apps. Nowadays I have 16GB and I’m constantly running into swap. That’s without running any demanding workloads. Granted the swap is a lot faster with modern SSDs, but it’s not good for the drive. Apple thinks that anyone who needs more than 16GB of RAM is a professional color grader or audio producer or something. But I just want to run Discord.

by samhuk 4y ago

gambiting 4y ago

TBF Dell is equally as bad if not worse. A 128GB ram upgrade on my Precision 7670 has been £1800. It's insane.

dandy23 4y ago
For a Dell you can buy that RAM from anywhere.
- gambiting 4y ago
  Except you can't because their new precision workstations use their own new proprietary format. You can only buy it from Dell. They said they will make a SO-DIMM adapter but it doesn't support 128GB.

masklinn 4y ago

The Apple tax on ram and storage has always been ridiculous, but a long long time ago in a galaxy far away you could use aftermarket RAM and drives, and batteries even used to be removable (and give easy access to RAM and drive, on the old polycarbonate macbooks). On my 2010 I could even replace the DVD drive by an aftermarket drive caddy. With soldered ram and drives, Apple’s the only game in town, and that means the Apple tax is a lot dearer.

germinalphrase 4y ago
"The Apple tax on ram and storage has always been ridiculous, but a long long time ago in a galaxy far away you could use aftermarket RAM and drives, and batteries even used to be removable (and give easy access to RAM and drive, on the old polycarbonate macbooks). On my 2010 I could even replace the DVD drive by an aftermarket drive caddy." Those were the good days. I loved dropping dual SSDs and additional RAM in my MBP. I harvested guts from broken ones off craigslist and kept it going for about 13 years before it finally kicked out.
sokoloff 4y ago
I’m agreeing with you on the absurdity now; this weekend though, I happened to click through to a video of a guy who upgraded the RAM on a MacBook Air. The video title isn’t clickbait; he did it successfully, but it was a pretty advanced project (as in "let me put the circuit board on my rework preheater to get started") https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxbVxaScZQ4 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxbVxaScZQ4
zarzavat 4y ago
Software also uses a lot more RAM than it did 10 years ago. 10 years ago I lived easily inside 8GB with all native apps. Nowadays I have 16GB and I’m constantly running into swap. That’s without running any demanding workloads. Granted the swap is a lot faster with modern SSDs, but it’s not good for the drive. Apple thinks that anyone who needs more than 16GB of RAM is a professional color grader or audio producer or something. But I just want to run Discord.