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Well. You are legally allowed to drive a car around, but will still get stones thrown at your car if you do so in an ultra-orthodox neighborhood.

by WJW 4y ago

saiya-jin 4y ago
Even at random stranger cars (which I expect to be the case, you don't throw stones on cars of people you actually know, not under normal circumstances)? Ie I am a tourist and driving around and I like some older parts of town. What is it with people generally that make them feel above others, forcing their viewpoints on everybody else as the only truth? People should generally travel far and exotic more, it changes folks for the better rather than their own micro echo chambers
- cassepipe 4y ago
  So if may summarize your question : What is it with people who have an absolute definition of truth, people who think truth is something that has been revealed/given to them rather something to be found by questioning the world, people who think the world outside of their community is at best misguided if not evil, what is it with them that make them so intolerant ? Who knows ?
  - eloisant 4y ago
    It's tribalism.
- will5421 4y ago
  > What is it with people generally that make them feel above others, forcing their viewpoints on everybody else as the only truth? I honestly thought you were talking about the car drivers, until your next sentence. > People should generally travel far and exotic more, it changes folks for the better rather than their own micro echo chambers Travelling like this is a luxury. The views of those who can't afford this luxury should be protected over the views of those who can.
  - WJW 4y ago
    The people throwing the stones could easily afford to travel outside their own neighborhood in Jerusalem, Tiberias or Tzefat though, they just choose not to because there are non-Jews there.
edanm 4y ago
I just want to make it clear that you're talking about a very very specific thing, which has nothing to do with the daily existence of most non-Jewish-religious Israelis. I mention this cause you make it sound like this is something more than it is. The vast majority of the Israeli population drives their car on Saturday.
- WJW 4y ago
  Fair. I did mention that it was only in the Haredi neighborhoods, but you're right that that is not a majority activity. Public transport does shut down though, even for citizens who wouldn't otherwise care and even in areas of the country without an (ultra-)orthodox majority.
  - edanm 4y ago
    Oh yes, absolutely, that's a pretty awful state of affairs that causes a lot of issues (e.g. people who otherwise could've done without a car, are basically forced to have one if they want to get anywhere on the weekend.)

Well. You are legally allowed to drive a car around, but will still get stones thrown at your car if you do so in an ultra-orthodox neighborhood.

by WJW 4y ago

Well. You are legally allowed to drive a car around, but will still get stones thrown at your car if you do so in an ultra-orthodox neighborhood.

saiya-jin 4y ago

Even at random stranger cars (which I expect to be the case, you don't throw stones on cars of people you actually know, not under normal circumstances)? Ie I am a tourist and driving around and I like some older parts of town. What is it with people generally that make them feel above others, forcing their viewpoints on everybody else as the only truth? People should generally travel far and exotic more, it changes folks for the better rather than their own micro echo chambers

cassepipe 4y ago
So if may summarize your question : What is it with people who have an absolute definition of truth, people who think truth is something that has been revealed/given to them rather something to be found by questioning the world, people who think the world outside of their community is at best misguided if not evil, what is it with them that make them so intolerant ? Who knows ?
- eloisant 4y ago
  It's tribalism.
will5421 4y ago
> What is it with people generally that make them feel above others, forcing their viewpoints on everybody else as the only truth? I honestly thought you were talking about the car drivers, until your next sentence. > People should generally travel far and exotic more, it changes folks for the better rather than their own micro echo chambers Travelling like this is a luxury. The views of those who can't afford this luxury should be protected over the views of those who can.
- WJW 4y ago
  The people throwing the stones could easily afford to travel outside their own neighborhood in Jerusalem, Tiberias or Tzefat though, they just choose not to because there are non-Jews there.

edanm 4y ago

I just want to make it clear that you're talking about a very very specific thing, which has nothing to do with the daily existence of most non-Jewish-religious Israelis. I mention this cause you make it sound like this is something more than it is. The vast majority of the Israeli population drives their car on Saturday.

WJW 4y ago
Fair. I did mention that it was only in the Haredi neighborhoods, but you're right that that is not a majority activity. Public transport does shut down though, even for citizens who wouldn't otherwise care and even in areas of the country without an (ultra-)orthodox majority.
- edanm 4y ago
  Oh yes, absolutely, that's a pretty awful state of affairs that causes a lot of issues (e.g. people who otherwise could've done without a car, are basically forced to have one if they want to get anywhere on the weekend.)