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How is this Windows fault? Format the drive and install your own Windows.

by dncornholio 4y ago

kiwijamo 4y ago
Ads appears even on fresh installs, so not sure how that helps?
drcongo 4y ago
You're advising him to do exactly what he says he did in the article. How is that going to turn out any different?
alpaca128 4y ago
> How is this Windows fault? By allowing OEMs to do this? Microsoft could stop it if they had any interest in making Windows a more consistent and reasonable experience. Yes, you can and should reinstall Windows, but you shouldn't have to.
- ascagnel_ 4y ago
  Microsoft's issue is that they _can't_ stop OEMs from doing it, or they'll run afoul of antitrust legislation. The Epic v. Google suit (which isn't going well for Google) is based on the argument that Google, as the OS creator, can't impose limits on the software OEMs ship on top of that OS.
  - alpaca128 4y ago
    If Microsoft can push their own browser so aggressively and make it such a pain to switch to a third-party one they could do other things as well. But they aren't interested clearly, otherwise they wouldn't add bloatware and ads to stock Windows on their own devices.
    - ascagnel_ 4y ago
      They're in a weird place with regard to antitrust: they can, to a degree, promote their own software, since it's their own software. But they can't limit what an OEM does because they've already sold their product to OEMs and the business is "complete", as far as US law goes.
matheusmoreira 4y ago
It's Windows: a product sold to people by a billion dollar corporation. Literally everything is their fault. If you have to reinstall the OS to get rid of OEM shitware, might as well install Linux.
- torh 4y ago
  I was surprised when I installed Windows 10. It used to be a simple process to get rid of the OEM shitware, but now Microsoft has included a lot of shitware into the base image as well. I installed Linux last week. The biggest issue was USB-C docking and DisplayLink. Actually, it was only the DisplayLink part, the docking worked fine.
650REDHAIR 4y ago
My fresh install from MSF had tiktok.

How is this Windows fault? Format the drive and install your own Windows.

kiwijamo 4y ago

Ads appears even on fresh installs, so not sure how that helps?

drcongo 4y ago

You're advising him to do exactly what he says he did in the article. How is that going to turn out any different?

alpaca128 4y ago

> How is this Windows fault? By allowing OEMs to do this? Microsoft could stop it if they had any interest in making Windows a more consistent and reasonable experience. Yes, you can and should reinstall Windows, but you shouldn't have to.

ascagnel_ 4y ago
Microsoft's issue is that they _can't_ stop OEMs from doing it, or they'll run afoul of antitrust legislation. The Epic v. Google suit (which isn't going well for Google) is based on the argument that Google, as the OS creator, can't impose limits on the software OEMs ship on top of that OS.
- alpaca128 4y ago
  If Microsoft can push their own browser so aggressively and make it such a pain to switch to a third-party one they could do other things as well. But they aren't interested clearly, otherwise they wouldn't add bloatware and ads to stock Windows on their own devices.
  - ascagnel_ 4y ago
    They're in a weird place with regard to antitrust: they can, to a degree, promote their own software, since it's their own software. But they can't limit what an OEM does because they've already sold their product to OEMs and the business is "complete", as far as US law goes.

matheusmoreira 4y ago

It's Windows: a product sold to people by a billion dollar corporation. Literally everything is their fault. If you have to reinstall the OS to get rid of OEM shitware, might as well install Linux.

torh 4y ago
I was surprised when I installed Windows 10. It used to be a simple process to get rid of the OEM shitware, but now Microsoft has included a lot of shitware into the base image as well. I installed Linux last week. The biggest issue was USB-C docking and DisplayLink. Actually, it was only the DisplayLink part, the docking worked fine.

650REDHAIR 4y ago

My fresh install from MSF had tiktok.