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Glorious. This blog post by the creator on the insanity of the JS ecosystem is also a good read https://pouria.dev/programs-are-dead/ https://pouria.dev/program

Glorious. This blog post by the creator on the insanity of the JS ecosystem is also a good read https://pouria.dev/programs-are-dead/ https://pouria.dev/programs-are-dead/

flohofwoe 4y ago
Looking in the browser devtools it seems to be a three.js application.
- Kovah 4y ago
  Looking into the dev tools also reveals that the page tries to load Google Analytics without consent. Not cool.
  - poeti8 4y ago
    I'm sorry, I forgot about that. I removed Google Analytics from my personal website just now.
  - flohofwoe 4y ago
    I didn't think it worth mentioning because it's blocked by uBlock Origin anyway ;)
  - KyeRussell 4y ago
    What an absurdly high bar that 99% of the sites on HN certainly don’t reach.
    - thiht 4y ago
      The law?
      - antonvs 4y ago
        Laws are different in different countries. The internet is in all of them. What is it that you’re looking for, a useless “this site uses cookies” warning? That can mean anything, from a site that has a simple login feature, to a site that participates in a network that tracks you across the internet. The legal requirement for that notification is a great example of futile regulation that achieves nothing but globally wasted productivity. It’s like having to warn people that you breathe - regulators focused on the wrong common factor. If you care enough about the issue, there are plenty of off-the-shelf blockers you can install.
      - deleted 4y ago
        [deleted]
  - readertime 4y ago
    [flagged]
toastercat 4y ago
The great irony of this post is that the author dreams of a world where they can use a library without it depending on hundreds of other modules, yet their website is built on Gatsby, an NPM package with one of the most insane dependency graphs I've seen. Uploading the author's website's package.json[1] into npmgraph[2] lists a total of 1561 dependencies. All that for what amounts to a simple blog site. [1] https://github.com/poeti8/pouria.dev/blob/master/package.json https://github.com/poeti8/pouria.dev/blob/master/package.jso... [2] https://npmgraph.js.org/ https://npmgraph.js.org/
- poeti8 4y ago
  That's why I wrote the blog post.
  - Abishek_Muthian 4y ago
    Thanks for writing it. Whenever I see WebGL posts like yours & chiechanowski I think like these folks must really love JavaScript to create such masterpiece & with my apprehension towards the JS ecosystem I couldn't indulge myself to put such effort. Your post on JS ecosystem resonates with me & perhaps there's a narrow gap for someone without liking the JS ecosystem could do something extraordinary with JavaScript.
  - toastercat 4y ago
    Why not use a different tool then? Hugo or Zola are mature and provide static binaries. If you want to stay in the Node world, I can recommend tinyjam by mourner (or anything by Volodymyr, really).
    - jack_riminton 4y ago
      The point of the article is to complain about the state of the JS ecosystem as a whole. Of course there are workarounds and alternatives but it doesn't detract from the main point.
      - toastercat 4y ago

Glorious. This blog post by the creator on the insanity of the JS ecosystem is also a good read https://pouria.dev/programs-are-dead/ https://pouria.dev/programs-are-dead/

flohofwoe 4y ago

Looking in the browser devtools it seems to be a three.js application.

Kovah 4y ago
Looking into the dev tools also reveals that the page tries to load Google Analytics without consent. Not cool.
- poeti8 4y ago
  I'm sorry, I forgot about that. I removed Google Analytics from my personal website just now.
- flohofwoe 4y ago
  I didn't think it worth mentioning because it's blocked by uBlock Origin anyway ;)
- KyeRussell 4y ago
  What an absurdly high bar that 99% of the sites on HN certainly don’t reach.
  - thiht 4y ago
    The law?
    - antonvs 4y ago
      Laws are different in different countries. The internet is in all of them. What is it that you’re looking for, a useless “this site uses cookies” warning? That can mean anything, from a site that has a simple login feature, to a site that participates in a network that tracks you across the internet. The legal requirement for that notification is a great example of futile regulation that achieves nothing but globally wasted productivity. It’s like having to warn people that you breathe - regulators focused on the wrong common factor. If you care enough about the issue, there are plenty of off-the-shelf blockers you can install.
    - deleted 4y ago
      [deleted]
- readertime 4y ago
  [flagged]

toastercat 4y ago

The great irony of this post is that the author dreams of a world where they can use a library without it depending on hundreds of other modules, yet their website is built on Gatsby, an NPM package with one of the most insane dependency graphs I've seen. Uploading the author's website's package.json[1] into npmgraph[2] lists a total of 1561 dependencies. All that for what amounts to a simple blog site. [1] https://github.com/poeti8/pouria.dev/blob/master/package.json https://github.com/poeti8/pouria.dev/blob/master/package.jso... [2] https://npmgraph.js.org/ https://npmgraph.js.org/

poeti8 4y ago
That's why I wrote the blog post.
- Abishek_Muthian 4y ago
  Thanks for writing it. Whenever I see WebGL posts like yours & chiechanowski I think like these folks must really love JavaScript to create such masterpiece & with my apprehension towards the JS ecosystem I couldn't indulge myself to put such effort. Your post on JS ecosystem resonates with me & perhaps there's a narrow gap for someone without liking the JS ecosystem could do something extraordinary with JavaScript.
- toastercat 4y ago
  Why not use a different tool then? Hugo or Zola are mature and provide static binaries. If you want to stay in the Node world, I can recommend tinyjam by mourner (or anything by Volodymyr, really).
  - jack_riminton 4y ago
    The point of the article is to complain about the state of the JS ecosystem as a whole. Of course there are workarounds and alternatives but it doesn't detract from the main point.
    - toastercat 4y ago