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Hostile personal computing is here to stay. Dark patterns are prerequisite for commercial OS nowadays. Outside the usual "work" scenario, there is no sane tech

by nbzso 4y ago

Hostile personal computing is here to stay. Dark patterns are prerequisite for commercial OS nowadays. Outside the usual "work" scenario, there is no sane tech person who is not aware of this and is not using Linux. The idea that Macs are somehow better is obvious when installing Little Snitch. These are the data hoarders for the common people. My kid will know what is a terminal before it touches iPad or iPhone.

A4ET8a8uTh0 4y ago
I think you are right. I don't know the real demographics, but anecdotally most buddies seem to have been looking into alternatives over the past few years. Some went for fancish Unraid, some various linux flavors, but very few actually stayed on Windows. Proton certainly helped as gaming stopped being a valid reason. I used to think my own jump will be harder, but, well, I now run Windows maybe once a quarter. One of those times is to file taxes. Sadly, you are likely also right about the race to the bottom for the rest. Maybe it would be different if they cared, but they don't. I have tried to explain it to my wife many a time, but it was mostly a failure ( so now her new lappy runs decrappified Windows 10 ). Worse yet, the whole data economy has become ingrained. Just yesterday chick at a dealership joked to sign here so that everyone can get my phone number. After that, attended a birthday party, where host company had a provision in disclaimer that they can use any pictures captured on camera for their promotion should they so choose. I almost lost it. It has been normalized. And you can't even cross this shit out, because it is all 'standard form' on a PC and whatever teen is running the desk wouldn't give a shit even if they understood the issue. << My kid will know what is a terminal before it touches iPad or iPhone. It is funny. My kid loves keyboard. Maybe there is hope yet.
deely3 4y ago
Bragging a bit? > My kid will know what is a terminal before it touches iPad or iPhone. Why? Why they should know terminal? > there is no sane tech person who is not aware of this and is not using Linux Whoa. Which Linux opensource phone your family use?
- deafpolygon 4y ago
  Most likely the kid will learn iPad before anything else. Or a mobile OS touch interface. You can't stop them from interacting with their friends, who will definitely have this. They won't have any interest in terminal interfaces until much later.
sounds 4y ago
Just finished setting up a new machine for an older relative that boots instantly into linux, starts qemu with a copy-on-write version of Windows 7. It doesn't need updates because they don't access the internet, good luck virus writers when it gets nuked from outside the VM every time it reboots!

by nbzso 4y ago

A4ET8a8uTh0 4y ago

I think you are right. I don't know the real demographics, but anecdotally most buddies seem to have been looking into alternatives over the past few years. Some went for fancish Unraid, some various linux flavors, but very few actually stayed on Windows. Proton certainly helped as gaming stopped being a valid reason. I used to think my own jump will be harder, but, well, I now run Windows maybe once a quarter. One of those times is to file taxes. Sadly, you are likely also right about the race to the bottom for the rest. Maybe it would be different if they cared, but they don't. I have tried to explain it to my wife many a time, but it was mostly a failure ( so now her new lappy runs decrappified Windows 10 ). Worse yet, the whole data economy has become ingrained. Just yesterday chick at a dealership joked to sign here so that everyone can get my phone number. After that, attended a birthday party, where host company had a provision in disclaimer that they can use any pictures captured on camera for their promotion should they so choose. I almost lost it. It has been normalized. And you can't even cross this shit out, because it is all 'standard form' on a PC and whatever teen is running the desk wouldn't give a shit even if they understood the issue. << My kid will know what is a terminal before it touches iPad or iPhone. It is funny. My kid loves keyboard. Maybe there is hope yet.

deely3 4y ago

Bragging a bit? > My kid will know what is a terminal before it touches iPad or iPhone. Why? Why they should know terminal? > there is no sane tech person who is not aware of this and is not using Linux Whoa. Which Linux opensource phone your family use?

deafpolygon 4y ago
Most likely the kid will learn iPad before anything else. Or a mobile OS touch interface. You can't stop them from interacting with their friends, who will definitely have this. They won't have any interest in terminal interfaces until much later.

sounds 4y ago

Just finished setting up a new machine for an older relative that boots instantly into linux, starts qemu with a copy-on-write version of Windows 7. It doesn't need updates because they don't access the internet, good luck virus writers when it gets nuked from outside the VM every time it reboots!