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Are those strangers truly concerned about their safety or are they actually egoists that want to use the police to get the outdoors for themselves and other adu

by im3w1l 4y ago

Are those strangers truly concerned about their safety or are they actually egoists that want to use the police to get the outdoors for themselves and other adults?

kelseyfrog 4y ago
We may never know. It is frustrating as a parent to be held to the social expectations of those at the most extreme ends of normative conviction. It speaks volumes that we mediate these interactions through police rather than through mutual dialogue.
- jrumbut 4y ago
  Yeah, that's the part of your story I find most disturbing. People will disagree on all kinds of issues, but would take a major crime for me to call the police on my neighbor. Imagine living next to someone after you did that?
- jancsika 4y ago
  > It speaks volumes that we mediate these interactions through police rather than through mutual dialogue. I wouldn't call the police on kids climbing trees. But I'd attend a 3-hour timeshare pitch meeting at a Red Lobster before I'd have a 5 minute "mutual dialogue" with a parent about their kids' truly problematic behavior. (And I'm allergic to shellfish.) Parents who can have mutual dialogues typically don't have kids who require them. And for the kids who desperately need them, community members seem to play a game of hot potato until somebody is finally forced to step in and confront the parents (typically after property damage).
  - yencabulator 4y ago
    The examples in the article are > In the U.S. though, the police have been called, women arrested, and children taken into custody for finishing out a stroller nap in an enclosed backyard, using an iPad in a car for a few minutes, and playing in a park. So, which ones of those are property damage to neighbors?
somenameforme 4y ago
If I were to attribute negative motivations to it, it would probably be one more of resentment or jealousy. There are a lot of folks who are going to be growing older with no children. This often sounds great when you're young to "young", but decidedly less great as one ages. I've always wondered how society, at large, was going to deal with this. The rise of these sort of things seems to correlate particularly well with the skyrocketing rate of single person households in the US, which increased more than 500% from 1960 to 2021 [1], even though the population in that time didn't even double. [1] - https://www.statista.com/statistics/242022/number-of-single-person-households-in-the-us/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/242022/number-of-single-...
- than3 4y ago
  Isn't that just a nice way of saying mentally ill? Healthy and well-adjusted adults don't do these things.
  - kevviiinn 4y ago
    Due to stigma, people will dance around the relationship of mental illness and socially maladjusted behaviors all day

by im3w1l 4y ago

Are those strangers truly concerned about their safety or are they actually egoists that want to use the police to get the outdoors for themselves and other adults?

kelseyfrog 4y ago

We may never know. It is frustrating as a parent to be held to the social expectations of those at the most extreme ends of normative conviction. It speaks volumes that we mediate these interactions through police rather than through mutual dialogue.

jrumbut 4y ago
Yeah, that's the part of your story I find most disturbing. People will disagree on all kinds of issues, but would take a major crime for me to call the police on my neighbor. Imagine living next to someone after you did that?
jancsika 4y ago
> It speaks volumes that we mediate these interactions through police rather than through mutual dialogue. I wouldn't call the police on kids climbing trees. But I'd attend a 3-hour timeshare pitch meeting at a Red Lobster before I'd have a 5 minute "mutual dialogue" with a parent about their kids' truly problematic behavior. (And I'm allergic to shellfish.) Parents who can have mutual dialogues typically don't have kids who require them. And for the kids who desperately need them, community members seem to play a game of hot potato until somebody is finally forced to step in and confront the parents (typically after property damage).
- yencabulator 4y ago
  The examples in the article are > In the U.S. though, the police have been called, women arrested, and children taken into custody for finishing out a stroller nap in an enclosed backyard, using an iPad in a car for a few minutes, and playing in a park. So, which ones of those are property damage to neighbors?

somenameforme 4y ago

If I were to attribute negative motivations to it, it would probably be one more of resentment or jealousy. There are a lot of folks who are going to be growing older with no children. This often sounds great when you're young to "young", but decidedly less great as one ages. I've always wondered how society, at large, was going to deal with this. The rise of these sort of things seems to correlate particularly well with the skyrocketing rate of single person households in the US, which increased more than 500% from 1960 to 2021 [1], even though the population in that time didn't even double. [1] - https://www.statista.com/statistics/242022/number-of-single-person-households-in-the-us/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/242022/number-of-single-...

than3 4y ago
Isn't that just a nice way of saying mentally ill? Healthy and well-adjusted adults don't do these things.
- kevviiinn 4y ago
  Due to stigma, people will dance around the relationship of mental illness and socially maladjusted behaviors all day