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I suppose it’s hard for me to really understand this situation. I live in a mixed-income neighborhood within a major US city and there are tons of kids that wal

by samtho 4y ago

I suppose it’s hard for me to really understand this situation. I live in a mixed-income neighborhood within a major US city and there are tons of kids that walk around in transit to/from school, the park, the bus stop, with younger kid always accompanied by older ones (10 and up). My neighborhood is fairly tight knit and if a kid goes “missing”, it’s usually because their phone died or something and the parent overreacted after not being able to reach them. I would be concerned if I see a kid walking alone without any clear purpose/destination, but even then, an isolated incident is not going to be a call to CPS.

laverya 4y ago
> I would be concerned if I see a kid walking alone without any clear purpose/destination, but even then, an isolated incident is not going to be a call to CPS. You're damning yourself with faint praise, here. Giving kids independence means that they're regularly going to be outside alone (or with friends), and often without a clear purpose or destination. And it's sort of sounding like you'd be considering calling CPS over that.
- samtho 4y ago
  The situation I was trying to describe is when a kid is clearly lost, not just playing around. This is a concern I would have if I saw an adult in the situation with a similar remedy: ask if they need help.
4bpp 4y ago
> I would be concerned if I see a kid walking alone without any clear purpose/destination, but even then, an isolated incident is not going to be a call to CPS. Do you realise how threatening this sounds? You are all but implying that if you, conversely, see a kid outside a few times and can't figure out their purpose/destination, you might just call CPS. I wouldn't trust most kids to manage to look unambiguously purposeful to adult strangers most of the time (when I myself was in 4th grade and going to a primary school in a neighbouring town, I would frequently get distracted by something and miss three or four once-in-30-minutes buses in a row), so you're essentially saying that you may CPS on a whim after seeing the same kid multiple times in a row. If I lived in the US and knew I had neighbours like that, I would not risk letting any kids go outside on their own.
- brailsafe 4y ago
  I think this is a logically unsound, or at best uncharitable interpretation. My read of it is simply that calling CPS would hypothetically be an exaggerated reaction, even in circumstances that are unusual in their day to day context, and would require at least a higher bar if not much higher bar, and presumably other measures having been taken, like talking to them
qball 4y ago
>I would be concerned if I see a kid walking alone without any clear purpose/destination Yeah, God fucking forbid they exercise their human right to movement in a way that offends your sensibilities.
- samtho 4y ago
  That’s more out of a concern of are they lost or needing help.

by samtho 4y ago

laverya 4y ago

> I would be concerned if I see a kid walking alone without any clear purpose/destination, but even then, an isolated incident is not going to be a call to CPS. You're damning yourself with faint praise, here. Giving kids independence means that they're regularly going to be outside alone (or with friends), and often without a clear purpose or destination. And it's sort of sounding like you'd be considering calling CPS over that.

samtho 4y ago
The situation I was trying to describe is when a kid is clearly lost, not just playing around. This is a concern I would have if I saw an adult in the situation with a similar remedy: ask if they need help.

4bpp 4y ago

> I would be concerned if I see a kid walking alone without any clear purpose/destination, but even then, an isolated incident is not going to be a call to CPS. Do you realise how threatening this sounds? You are all but implying that if you, conversely, see a kid outside a few times and can't figure out their purpose/destination, you might just call CPS. I wouldn't trust most kids to manage to look unambiguously purposeful to adult strangers most of the time (when I myself was in 4th grade and going to a primary school in a neighbouring town, I would frequently get distracted by something and miss three or four once-in-30-minutes buses in a row), so you're essentially saying that you may CPS on a whim after seeing the same kid multiple times in a row. If I lived in the US and knew I had neighbours like that, I would not risk letting any kids go outside on their own.

brailsafe 4y ago
I think this is a logically unsound, or at best uncharitable interpretation. My read of it is simply that calling CPS would hypothetically be an exaggerated reaction, even in circumstances that are unusual in their day to day context, and would require at least a higher bar if not much higher bar, and presumably other measures having been taken, like talking to them

qball 4y ago

>I would be concerned if I see a kid walking alone without any clear purpose/destination Yeah, God fucking forbid they exercise their human right to movement in a way that offends your sensibilities.

samtho 4y ago
That’s more out of a concern of are they lost or needing help.