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> She said on Sunday that their business model was "very expensive -- five euros for 10 minutes -- it's not very sustainable, and above all, it's the cause of a

> She said on Sunday that their business model was "very expensive -- five euros for 10 minutes -- it's not very sustainable, and above all, it's the cause of a lot of accidents." It must be great to have a wise mayor in the government who calls out "expensive business models". > currently be hired by children as young as 12 When I went there, I read the Lime, Dott, etc rules and they all said 16, some 18+. Where did they get 12 yo from? It was a great way to get around the city, especially in the dedicated lanes along the Seine. Not sure how it is more dangerous than biking? But, people who actually live in that city apparently hate it, so here we are.

delusional 4y ago
> When I went there, I read the Lime, Dott, etc rules and they all said 16, some 18+. Where did they get 12 yo from? I don't live in Paris, but this random website that seems to offer scooter rentals say 12 years old: https://rentngo.fr/en/home/ https://rentngo.fr/en/home/
- twelve40 4y ago
  This seems to be a scooter-tour-type thing. If you walk around the city, most of what you see is Lime, Tier and Dott, the ones the article talks about.
jen729w 4y ago
> When I went there, I read the Lime, Dott, etc rules and they all said 16, some 18+. Where did they get 12 yo from? Kids find a way. I live in Canberra, Australia. We have a couple of competing e-scooter hire companies. They're pretty good. There are always kids on them.
- slowmotiony 4y ago
  Kids "find a way" to have a working credit card? Maybe that's on their parents then...?
lannisterstark 4y ago
>wise mayor in the government who calls out "expensive business models". funny considering the govt is the most expensive business model out there.
camillomiller 4y ago
And why exactly shouldn’t people that live there have a democratic vote and have a say?
- concordDance 4y ago
  Those 12 year who suddenly got mobility and then suddenly lost it had no say. These paws are voted on exclusively by the elderly for complex reasons.
  - Symbiote 4y ago
    Buses, metro, cycling and walking still work for 12 year olds. Assuming they were paying (which often they weren't) these alternatives are all cheaper.
  - camillomiller 4y ago
    So those 12 years old are "entitled" to mobility how, and why would they be entitled to driving such a vehicle from a private company, for which you need to understand the concept of insurance and personal damage responsibility, at an age that wouldn't allow them to drive basically anything else than their personal bike?
    - concordDance 4y ago
      Why do they not also need those concepts when driving a personal bike?
ehnto 4y ago
The internet companies and apps do exactly nothing to prevent kids using them. It's a tough problem, because the alternative is requiring ID validation for every online service you use, which is the wrong path too.

delusional 4y ago

> When I went there, I read the Lime, Dott, etc rules and they all said 16, some 18+. Where did they get 12 yo from? I don't live in Paris, but this random website that seems to offer scooter rentals say 12 years old: https://rentngo.fr/en/home/ https://rentngo.fr/en/home/

twelve40 4y ago
This seems to be a scooter-tour-type thing. If you walk around the city, most of what you see is Lime, Tier and Dott, the ones the article talks about.

jen729w 4y ago

> When I went there, I read the Lime, Dott, etc rules and they all said 16, some 18+. Where did they get 12 yo from? Kids find a way. I live in Canberra, Australia. We have a couple of competing e-scooter hire companies. They're pretty good. There are always kids on them.

slowmotiony 4y ago
Kids "find a way" to have a working credit card? Maybe that's on their parents then...?

lannisterstark 4y ago

>wise mayor in the government who calls out "expensive business models". funny considering the govt is the most expensive business model out there.

camillomiller 4y ago

And why exactly shouldn’t people that live there have a democratic vote and have a say?

concordDance 4y ago
Those 12 year who suddenly got mobility and then suddenly lost it had no say. These paws are voted on exclusively by the elderly for complex reasons.
- Symbiote 4y ago
  Buses, metro, cycling and walking still work for 12 year olds. Assuming they were paying (which often they weren't) these alternatives are all cheaper.
- camillomiller 4y ago
  So those 12 years old are "entitled" to mobility how, and why would they be entitled to driving such a vehicle from a private company, for which you need to understand the concept of insurance and personal damage responsibility, at an age that wouldn't allow them to drive basically anything else than their personal bike?
  - concordDance 4y ago
    Why do they not also need those concepts when driving a personal bike?

ehnto 4y ago

The internet companies and apps do exactly nothing to prevent kids using them. It's a tough problem, because the alternative is requiring ID validation for every online service you use, which is the wrong path too.