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Cars are far more dangerous, no?

Manuel_D 4y ago
On a per mile basis, likely not.
that_guy_iain 4y ago
Yea, but we're used to that danger. In fact, we're trained to deal with that danger from being a few years old. E-scooters are a new danger that while far less dangerous is far more annoying because we're not used to it.
bigbillheck 4y ago
I'm happy to ban those, at least in city centers.
- Gigachad 4y ago
  I'd be quite happy to ban all commuter cars from cities. And then use the space reclaimed for scooters and bikes.
Raed667 4y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism
FeistySkink 4y ago
Cars have a dedicated space. Most cities don't have a dedicated bicycle infrastructure, or at least not enough and not well connected, so scooters are forced to share pedestrian paths. And, again, people treat them like somebody-else's property and misbehave, for which there are no consequences.
- rimliu 4y ago
  Also in Europe most countries require you to attend some driving school, pass a test that's not a joke and abide to the traffic regulations. Neither of this applies to the scooter riders and it shows.
bombolo 4y ago
Do people often park 5 cars between you and your door so that you have to walk over them to go inside? Didn't think so.
- hackerlight 4y ago
  Cars take up more physical space, require public infrastructure that takes up significant taxpayer funding, tie up policing resources that take taxpayer funding, pollute noxious gas and sound that actively damage my health, contribute to global warming, and they are a lethal risk to others not just an "ouch you broke my leg by hitting into me" risk. There is no comparison.
  - bombolo 4y ago
    Scooters require infrastructure too… unless you think that piling them up on sidewalks is the way forward…
    - hackerlight 4y ago
      It's a matter of degree. Sometimes things are worse than other things without that other thing being perfect.
MengerSponge 4y ago
Yes, which is why Paris is also addressing that problem. The French can walk and chew gum at the same time.

On a per mile basis, likely not.

Yea, but we're used to that danger. In fact, we're trained to deal with that danger from being a few years old. E-scooters are a new danger that while far less dangerous is far more annoying because we're not used to it.

bigbillheck 4y ago

I'm happy to ban those, at least in city centers.

Gigachad 4y ago
I'd be quite happy to ban all commuter cars from cities. And then use the space reclaimed for scooters and bikes.

Raed667 4y ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism

FeistySkink 4y ago

Cars have a dedicated space. Most cities don't have a dedicated bicycle infrastructure, or at least not enough and not well connected, so scooters are forced to share pedestrian paths. And, again, people treat them like somebody-else's property and misbehave, for which there are no consequences.

rimliu 4y ago
Also in Europe most countries require you to attend some driving school, pass a test that's not a joke and abide to the traffic regulations. Neither of this applies to the scooter riders and it shows.

bombolo 4y ago

Do people often park 5 cars between you and your door so that you have to walk over them to go inside? Didn't think so.

hackerlight 4y ago
Cars take up more physical space, require public infrastructure that takes up significant taxpayer funding, tie up policing resources that take taxpayer funding, pollute noxious gas and sound that actively damage my health, contribute to global warming, and they are a lethal risk to others not just an "ouch you broke my leg by hitting into me" risk. There is no comparison.
- bombolo 4y ago
  Scooters require infrastructure too… unless you think that piling them up on sidewalks is the way forward…
  - hackerlight 4y ago
    It's a matter of degree. Sometimes things are worse than other things without that other thing being perfect.

MengerSponge 4y ago

Yes, which is why Paris is also addressing that problem. The French can walk and chew gum at the same time.