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Number of times Russia attacked any NATO state is exactly 0, same as number of times NATO invaded Russia. What’s your point here? On the other side, why so lim

Number of times Russia attacked any NATO state is exactly 0, same as number of times NATO invaded Russia. What’s your point here? On the other side, why so limited question? Why not comparing the number of times NATO states invaded some country, and compare with the number of times Russia invaded some country. The relation would probably be somewhere between 10:1 and 100:1. And btw, why do you call NATO a defensive alliance when it wasn’t involved in a defensive war, only in criminal aggression, if we use international law classification.

mopsi 4y ago
> Why not comparing the number of times NATO states invaded some country, and compare with the number of times Russia invaded some country. The relation would probably be somewhere between 10:1 and 100:1. Not even close: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_Russia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_Russia And the list only contains major armed conflicts, omitting violent crackdowns in occupied territories, for example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/April_9_tragedy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/April_9_tragedy and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_Events_(Lithuania) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_Events_(Lithuania)
- bilqis 4y ago
  Are you actually citing all the wars Russia was involved in since IX century? I don’t even know where to start with this, but maybe consider that “Russia” is not some thousand year old unchanging state, it has been morphing and changing drastically. Even reasoning about USSR and modern Russia as equivalent entities is just plain wrong - different economies, different basis, different system of government, ownership and decision making, vastly different territories even. So I would stick comparing modern states between each other, not some small feudal entities from IX century

mopsi 4y ago

> Why not comparing the number of times NATO states invaded some country, and compare with the number of times Russia invaded some country. The relation would probably be somewhere between 10:1 and 100:1. Not even close: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_Russia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_Russia And the list only contains major armed conflicts, omitting violent crackdowns in occupied territories, for example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/April_9_tragedy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/April_9_tragedy and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_Events_(Lithuania) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_Events_(Lithuania)

bilqis 4y ago
Are you actually citing all the wars Russia was involved in since IX century? I don’t even know where to start with this, but maybe consider that “Russia” is not some thousand year old unchanging state, it has been morphing and changing drastically. Even reasoning about USSR and modern Russia as equivalent entities is just plain wrong - different economies, different basis, different system of government, ownership and decision making, vastly different territories even. So I would stick comparing modern states between each other, not some small feudal entities from IX century