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Windows containers for docker exist for a long time already, they are even compatible with k8s. And they are just a mess. Windows is not really a suitable platf

by andix 4y ago

Windows containers for docker exist for a long time already, they are even compatible with k8s. And they are just a mess. Windows is not really a suitable platform for containerized apps. If you want a sandboxed App environment for windows, there are the UWP/Store apps, which are also not that great. I have the feeling that Microsoft kind of gave up on windows and is trying to move everything into the cloud and the browser.

riffic 4y ago
they should give up on windows too.
- andix 4y ago
  I think that’s what they are doing. Most new sever side products they release have first class Linux support. And most new desktop applications are web based. Also Edge is supported on Linux.
  - pjmlp 4y ago
    Azure runs on Windows. https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/windows-os-platform-blog/azure-host-os-cloud-host/ba-p/3709528 https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/windows-os-platform-b...
    - andix 4y ago
      Those are probably hyper-v hosts. Yes it is Windows, but it’s mostly a virtualization platform for running VMs.
      - pjmlp 4y ago
        It doesn't matter, it is a Windows flavour still.
      - aeyes 4y ago
        At least their managed Postgres service is running on Windows machines. I don’t know much about Azure but after seeing that I’m pretty convinced that most services they offer run on a Windows kernel.
        jiggawatts 4y ago
        Many of their PaaS platforms are controlled by Service Fabric running on Windows. For example, Azure SQL Managed Instance is in this category. You can see the "SF" paths in a few places. I've been learning a bit about Service Fabric recently. It seems to predate Kubernetes and appears to scale far higher because it has native support for partitioning large clusters by "tenant id hash" or similar keys.
    - jonick 4y ago
      And Linux - every Azure blade has an embedded ARM SoC running a hardened Linux with various daemons that interface with both the Azure backend and the Windows host, control offloading of network and storage processing to the FPGA, and other tasks.
- 908B64B197 4y ago
  And give up their internal expertize with the stack?
ClumsyPilot 4y ago
Whats erong with UWP/ store apps?

by andix 4y ago

riffic 4y ago

they should give up on windows too.

andix 4y ago
I think that’s what they are doing. Most new sever side products they release have first class Linux support. And most new desktop applications are web based. Also Edge is supported on Linux.
- pjmlp 4y ago
  Azure runs on Windows. https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/windows-os-platform-blog/azure-host-os-cloud-host/ba-p/3709528 https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/windows-os-platform-b...
  - andix 4y ago
    Those are probably hyper-v hosts. Yes it is Windows, but it’s mostly a virtualization platform for running VMs.
    - pjmlp 4y ago
      It doesn't matter, it is a Windows flavour still.
    - aeyes 4y ago
      At least their managed Postgres service is running on Windows machines. I don’t know much about Azure but after seeing that I’m pretty convinced that most services they offer run on a Windows kernel.
      - jiggawatts 4y ago
        Many of their PaaS platforms are controlled by Service Fabric running on Windows. For example, Azure SQL Managed Instance is in this category. You can see the "SF" paths in a few places. I've been learning a bit about Service Fabric recently. It seems to predate Kubernetes and appears to scale far higher because it has native support for partitioning large clusters by "tenant id hash" or similar keys.
  - jonick 4y ago
    And Linux - every Azure blade has an embedded ARM SoC running a hardened Linux with various daemons that interface with both the Azure backend and the Windows host, control offloading of network and storage processing to the FPGA, and other tasks.
908B64B197 4y ago
And give up their internal expertize with the stack?

ClumsyPilot 4y ago

Whats erong with UWP/ store apps?