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I was raised in a religion and I'm considering returning to it. It gave me peace, and although I know I may be deluding myself, I like the effects. I think I ca

I was raised in a religion and I'm considering returning to it. It gave me peace, and although I know I may be deluding myself, I like the effects. I think I can hold both views in myself, this religion serves me, but it may be wrong and I understand it doesn't serve everyone and it's okay if others choose other religions or no religion. I will also be much more hesitant to give money to my religion. So far it has helped with death anxiety. No atheists in foxholes, none of us are getting out of this alive, etc.

belter 4y ago
I see the number of priests abusing children, and take that as an example that, neither religion made them a better person, neither they seem afraid of the after life they preach about...
- walkhour 4y ago
  And nevertheless the percentage of priests abusing children is lower than the percentage of school teachers doing the same. Make sure to bring that up every time you talk about the public school system.
  - cinntaile 4y ago
    > And nevertheless the percentage of priests abusing children is lower than the percentage of school children doing the same. Are you sure this is what you mean?
    - CrazyPyroLinux 4y ago
      Probably referring to teachers.
      - dsfyu404ed 4y ago
        Probably still technically correct with the typo.
  - sokoloff 4y ago
    Many have higher expectations of adults’ self-control than of schoolchildren. For most professions, that seems to be upheld.
  - germinalphrase 4y ago
    After shielding them from law enforcement, has the public school system moved teachers accused of child abuse into different schools in a new community allowing them the opportunity to abuse again?
    - walkhour 4y ago
      Yes [0][1]. [0] https://www.fox4news.com/news/teacher-arrested-sexual-abuse-charge-irving-plano-victor-moreno https://www.fox4news.com/news/teacher-arrested-sexual-abuse-... [1] https://www.cbsnews.com/colorado/news/summit-middle-school-principal-staff-indicted-mandatory-reporting-teacher-sexual-assault-child-abuse-leonard-grams/ https://www.cbsnews.com/colorado/news/summit-middle-school-p...
      - germinalphrase 4y ago
        Were the educators shielded from law enforcement: Article 1 > No, they were arrested by law enforcement. Article 2 > after first accusation, yes - school administration argued that the initial accusation was not credible. After additional accusation > No, the educator and their organizational leadership were arrested by law enforcement. Did the public school system moved teachers accused of child abuse into different schools in a new community allowing them the opportunity to abuse again? Article 1 & 2: No. In any case - I’m glad we agree that adults in a position of trust and power over children, who then abuse those children, should all be arrested, tried, and - if guilty - put in jail in their crimes. There is no amount of whataboutism that makes either group sympathetic.
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  - scarface74 4y ago
    The difference is that the entire larger organization is corrupt and covering it up.
- Buttons840 4y ago
  Your comment started a tangential discussion, but it's not really relevant to what I said. The fact that religion personally helps me with my death anxiety isn't changed by the flaws of religion. I know there are flaws, I know it's probably all made up, I keep a healthy distance, but again, none of this changes the fact that it helps my anxiety. Humans have been making up beliefs to help with death for a long time, and I'm consciously choosing to do like them.
  - belter 4y ago
    I hope that will help you, in the common journey we are all on, and from which we are not likely to escape. The problem is most religions, under the presentation of being about the after, are very much all about imposing, some kind of sometimes very light, sometimes very strong, anxious tyranny on the shared societal present.

belter 4y ago

I see the number of priests abusing children, and take that as an example that, neither religion made them a better person, neither they seem afraid of the after life they preach about...

walkhour 4y ago
And nevertheless the percentage of priests abusing children is lower than the percentage of school teachers doing the same. Make sure to bring that up every time you talk about the public school system.
- cinntaile 4y ago
  > And nevertheless the percentage of priests abusing children is lower than the percentage of school children doing the same. Are you sure this is what you mean?
  - CrazyPyroLinux 4y ago
    Probably referring to teachers.
    - dsfyu404ed 4y ago
      Probably still technically correct with the typo.
- sokoloff 4y ago
  Many have higher expectations of adults’ self-control than of schoolchildren. For most professions, that seems to be upheld.
- germinalphrase 4y ago
  After shielding them from law enforcement, has the public school system moved teachers accused of child abuse into different schools in a new community allowing them the opportunity to abuse again?
  - walkhour 4y ago
    Yes [0][1]. [0] https://www.fox4news.com/news/teacher-arrested-sexual-abuse-charge-irving-plano-victor-moreno https://www.fox4news.com/news/teacher-arrested-sexual-abuse-... [1] https://www.cbsnews.com/colorado/news/summit-middle-school-principal-staff-indicted-mandatory-reporting-teacher-sexual-assault-child-abuse-leonard-grams/ https://www.cbsnews.com/colorado/news/summit-middle-school-p...
    - germinalphrase 4y ago
      Were the educators shielded from law enforcement: Article 1 > No, they were arrested by law enforcement. Article 2 > after first accusation, yes - school administration argued that the initial accusation was not credible. After additional accusation > No, the educator and their organizational leadership were arrested by law enforcement. Did the public school system moved teachers accused of child abuse into different schools in a new community allowing them the opportunity to abuse again? Article 1 & 2: No. In any case - I’m glad we agree that adults in a position of trust and power over children, who then abuse those children, should all be arrested, tried, and - if guilty - put in jail in their crimes. There is no amount of whataboutism that makes either group sympathetic.
      - deleted 4y ago
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- scarface74 4y ago
  The difference is that the entire larger organization is corrupt and covering it up.
Buttons840 4y ago
Your comment started a tangential discussion, but it's not really relevant to what I said. The fact that religion personally helps me with my death anxiety isn't changed by the flaws of religion. I know there are flaws, I know it's probably all made up, I keep a healthy distance, but again, none of this changes the fact that it helps my anxiety. Humans have been making up beliefs to help with death for a long time, and I'm consciously choosing to do like them.
- belter 4y ago
  I hope that will help you, in the common journey we are all on, and from which we are not likely to escape. The problem is most religions, under the presentation of being about the after, are very much all about imposing, some kind of sometimes very light, sometimes very strong, anxious tyranny on the shared societal present.