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Is this really surprising? Nation-state actors and their proxies on both sides are constantly trying to astroturf Twitter. It's particularly awkward since the U

Is this really surprising? Nation-state actors and their proxies on both sides are constantly trying to astroturf Twitter. It's particularly awkward since the Ukrainian side seems to have a more effective disinformation program (eg. NAFO, Snake Island, the Ghost of Kiev, etc). It would be politically dangerous to crack down hard on that type of disinformation though, so all Twitter can do is turn down the volume for the topic in general.

SXX 4y ago
Would it also be okay if Twitter would turn down the volume of some of political topics in US or in whatever country you live in? Might be instead it should let you decide what topics are you interested in?
- calderknight 4y ago
  You're not really engaging with your parent's point, which is about misinformation. Would it be OK if Twitter allowed misinformation about the miltary operations in the Ukraine to run rampant? Would it be OK if Twitter censored pro-Ukranians (because they share a lot of misinformation)?
  - SXX 4y ago
    War is not COVID-19 with bunch of anti-vaxxers running around. Twitter can't possible tell what is misinformation in a war.
    - calderknight 4y ago
      Not sure how this is meant to relate to my comment
  - aftbit 4y ago
    IMO yes it would be totally OK if Twitter allowed misinformation (on almost any topic) to run rampant. How did we get into the position of expecting a platform that explicitly gives microphones to a huge variety of people to then turn around and police those people to make sure they're not saying false things? What happened to "trust nothing you hear and only half of what you read"? Determining what is true and what is false is not the job of the platform, but the reader.
- pseudo0 4y ago
  I would expect that indicating interest in a topic overrides global default settings. For example, I followed a number of accounts about the war, and I see a significant amount of Ukraine content. Maybe there is a x0.5 global default setting, but there is another "topic interest" variable somewhere doing a x10. Right now people are just cherry picking lines in a giant codebase without knowing how all the pieces interact.
rasz 4y ago
> disinformation program ... Snake Island russia lost multiple multi million dollar AA systems and a helicopter full of marines, all on crystal clear HD video. Other than 'gesture of goodwill' statement from one of the sides what part of it was disinformation?
- pseudo0 4y ago
  I was referring to this widely publicized incident: > Social media posts, online articles and Ukraine's president hailed 13 of the country's border guards as heroes, saying they were killed on a small Black Sea island after rejecting a Russian warship's surrender demand. But Kyiv's navy later admitted the troops were captive rather than dead, and Moscow said dozens had surrendered. https://factcheck.afp.com/doc.afp.com.324N64Y https://factcheck.afp.com/doc.afp.com.324N64Y
  - rasz 4y ago
    I just assumed they didnt know, fog of war etc.

SXX 4y ago

Would it also be okay if Twitter would turn down the volume of some of political topics in US or in whatever country you live in? Might be instead it should let you decide what topics are you interested in?

calderknight 4y ago
You're not really engaging with your parent's point, which is about misinformation. Would it be OK if Twitter allowed misinformation about the miltary operations in the Ukraine to run rampant? Would it be OK if Twitter censored pro-Ukranians (because they share a lot of misinformation)?
- SXX 4y ago
  War is not COVID-19 with bunch of anti-vaxxers running around. Twitter can't possible tell what is misinformation in a war.
  - calderknight 4y ago
    Not sure how this is meant to relate to my comment
- aftbit 4y ago
  IMO yes it would be totally OK if Twitter allowed misinformation (on almost any topic) to run rampant. How did we get into the position of expecting a platform that explicitly gives microphones to a huge variety of people to then turn around and police those people to make sure they're not saying false things? What happened to "trust nothing you hear and only half of what you read"? Determining what is true and what is false is not the job of the platform, but the reader.
pseudo0 4y ago
I would expect that indicating interest in a topic overrides global default settings. For example, I followed a number of accounts about the war, and I see a significant amount of Ukraine content. Maybe there is a x0.5 global default setting, but there is another "topic interest" variable somewhere doing a x10. Right now people are just cherry picking lines in a giant codebase without knowing how all the pieces interact.

rasz 4y ago

> disinformation program ... Snake Island russia lost multiple multi million dollar AA systems and a helicopter full of marines, all on crystal clear HD video. Other than 'gesture of goodwill' statement from one of the sides what part of it was disinformation?

pseudo0 4y ago
I was referring to this widely publicized incident: > Social media posts, online articles and Ukraine's president hailed 13 of the country's border guards as heroes, saying they were killed on a small Black Sea island after rejecting a Russian warship's surrender demand. But Kyiv's navy later admitted the troops were captive rather than dead, and Moscow said dozens had surrendered. https://factcheck.afp.com/doc.afp.com.324N64Y https://factcheck.afp.com/doc.afp.com.324N64Y
- rasz 4y ago
  I just assumed they didnt know, fog of war etc.