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Where and how do you get your food?

by nec4b 4y ago

Thiez 4y ago
The Netherlands are the second largest exporter of agricultural products in the world. They can severely reduce farming without endangering domestic food supplies. Of course these products that are consumed would have to be produced somewhere else, but since the pollution (nitrogen) is a local problem, this would still be a net win, and not just moving the problem around.
- nec4b 4y ago
  >>The Netherlands are the second largest exporter of agricultural products in the world. Amazing! Good for them. One would think such agricultural and engineering powerhouse could solve the nitrogen problem with technology and not resort to destroying one of it's most innovative industries. >>They can severely reduce farming without endangering domestic food supplies. That's probably what the Germans thought when they closed their nuclear power plants. And then the invasion of Ukraine happened. >>Of course these products that are consumed would have to be produced somewhere else, but since the pollution (nitrogen) is a local problem, this would still be a net win, and not just moving the problem around. TIL: polluting some other third world country, with severe lack of environment standards and inefficient agriculture is called a net win.
the_third_wave 4y ago
From the restaurant and the supermarket of course? What does "arable land" and "fertile soil" have to do with my vegaburger? It comes neatly wrapped in vacuum-sealed plastic from a factory which from the outside is nearly indiscernible from one of those data centres. As long as I can get my factory-made food from building A while streaming a video of me unwrapping the stuff to the data centre in building B I'm fine so you should be as well. For those who have read Asterix there is this scene in 'The Great Crossing' [1] where the fish monger - Kostunrix in the Dutch version, Unhygienix in the UK, Epidemix in the US - asks what the sea has to do with his fish since he gets it 'fresh from Lutetia' (Paris). [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asterix_and_the_Great_Crossing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asterix_and_the_Great_Crossing

Where and how do you get your food?

by nec4b 4y ago

Where and how do you get your food?

The Netherlands are the second largest exporter of agricultural products in the world. They can severely reduce farming without endangering domestic food supplies. Of course these products that are consumed would have to be produced somewhere else, but since the pollution (nitrogen) is a local problem, this would still be a net win, and not just moving the problem around.

nec4b 4y ago
>>The Netherlands are the second largest exporter of agricultural products in the world. Amazing! Good for them. One would think such agricultural and engineering powerhouse could solve the nitrogen problem with technology and not resort to destroying one of it's most innovative industries. >>They can severely reduce farming without endangering domestic food supplies. That's probably what the Germans thought when they closed their nuclear power plants. And then the invasion of Ukraine happened. >>Of course these products that are consumed would have to be produced somewhere else, but since the pollution (nitrogen) is a local problem, this would still be a net win, and not just moving the problem around. TIL: polluting some other third world country, with severe lack of environment standards and inefficient agriculture is called a net win.

the_third_wave 4y ago

From the restaurant and the supermarket of course? What does "arable land" and "fertile soil" have to do with my vegaburger? It comes neatly wrapped in vacuum-sealed plastic from a factory which from the outside is nearly indiscernible from one of those data centres. As long as I can get my factory-made food from building A while streaming a video of me unwrapping the stuff to the data centre in building B I'm fine so you should be as well. For those who have read Asterix there is this scene in 'The Great Crossing' [1] where the fish monger - Kostunrix in the Dutch version, Unhygienix in the UK, Epidemix in the US - asks what the sea has to do with his fish since he gets it 'fresh from Lutetia' (Paris). [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asterix_and_the_Great_Crossing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asterix_and_the_Great_Crossing