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Everyone has different bodies. Those that are able to work more without being burnt out should be allowed to (and rewarded for that).

by itake 4y ago

ghaff 4y ago
Well, basically companies generally won't buy back vacation unless you leave. And conversely it's usually difficult to buy another week or two of vacation (though I've done so under somewhat unusual circumstances). So you're mostly stuck with everyone conforming to the same vacation plan whether it's your preference or not. Benefits are generally fairly equalized even if they're a better deal for some people than others.
brewdad 4y ago
Says the person who hasn’t hit burnout yet. Your attitude really isn’t something to be proud of.
- itake 4y ago
  I have experienced burnout. At my peak, I worked 60 hours per week for about 8 weeks. Currently, 45–50 hours is more sustainable. Many people code outside their 40 hour per week day jobs (on side projects or leet code). If I don't have side projects or interview prep to do, I would love to be compensated for my additional bandwidth. 1/ How do Asian countries with their standard 50-65 hour weeks manage burnout? Before you reach for external statistics like birth rate, suicide rate, etc. I am saying workers have the choice of converting their time to cash instead of the current system where workers do not get to choose how many hours they work. Taiwan - 50-60 hours is common [0] S. Korea - current limit of 52 hours [1] and with some jobs averaging 46hr/wk [2].. China - 996 (9a-9p; 6 days per week)[3] Japan - 1/4 work 80 hours of overtime per mo [4] 2/ There are many people approaching retirement age with months of PTO saved up. They will use this PTO to retire months early (keeping them on employer health insurance longer). How do retirees fit into the paradigm of you _need_ to take at least X weeks of vacation, or you will be burned out? [0] - https://english.cw.com.tw/article/article.action?id=897 https://english.cw.com.tw/article/article.action?id=897 [1] - https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/18/asia/south-korea-longer-work-week-debate-intl-hnk/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/18/asia/south-korea-longer-work-... [2] - https://www.statista.com/statistics/689757/south-korea-average-working-hours-by-occupation/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/689757/south-korea-avera... [3] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/996_working_hour_system https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/996_working_hour_system [4] - https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/01/japan-has-some-of-the-longest-working-hours-in-the-world-its-trying-to-change.html https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/01/japan-has-some-of-the-longes...

Everyone has different bodies. Those that are able to work more without being burnt out should be allowed to (and rewarded for that).

by itake 4y ago

Everyone has different bodies. Those that are able to work more without being burnt out should be allowed to (and rewarded for that).

ghaff 4y ago

Well, basically companies generally won't buy back vacation unless you leave. And conversely it's usually difficult to buy another week or two of vacation (though I've done so under somewhat unusual circumstances). So you're mostly stuck with everyone conforming to the same vacation plan whether it's your preference or not. Benefits are generally fairly equalized even if they're a better deal for some people than others.

brewdad 4y ago

Says the person who hasn’t hit burnout yet. Your attitude really isn’t something to be proud of.

itake 4y ago
I have experienced burnout. At my peak, I worked 60 hours per week for about 8 weeks. Currently, 45–50 hours is more sustainable. Many people code outside their 40 hour per week day jobs (on side projects or leet code). If I don't have side projects or interview prep to do, I would love to be compensated for my additional bandwidth. 1/ How do Asian countries with their standard 50-65 hour weeks manage burnout? Before you reach for external statistics like birth rate, suicide rate, etc. I am saying workers have the choice of converting their time to cash instead of the current system where workers do not get to choose how many hours they work. Taiwan - 50-60 hours is common [0] S. Korea - current limit of 52 hours [1] and with some jobs averaging 46hr/wk [2].. China - 996 (9a-9p; 6 days per week)[3] Japan - 1/4 work 80 hours of overtime per mo [4] 2/ There are many people approaching retirement age with months of PTO saved up. They will use this PTO to retire months early (keeping them on employer health insurance longer). How do retirees fit into the paradigm of you _need_ to take at least X weeks of vacation, or you will be burned out? [0] - https://english.cw.com.tw/article/article.action?id=897 https://english.cw.com.tw/article/article.action?id=897 [1] - https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/18/asia/south-korea-longer-work-week-debate-intl-hnk/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/18/asia/south-korea-longer-work-... [2] - https://www.statista.com/statistics/689757/south-korea-average-working-hours-by-occupation/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/689757/south-korea-avera... [3] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/996_working_hour_system https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/996_working_hour_system [4] - https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/01/japan-has-some-of-the-longest-working-hours-in-the-world-its-trying-to-change.html https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/01/japan-has-some-of-the-longes...