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Some of these predictions are reasonable, but some of these are pretty out there. I'm as diehard a Linux user as any, but some of these feel like they live in t

by aquova 4y ago

Some of these predictions are reasonable, but some of these are pretty out there. I'm as diehard a Linux user as any, but some of these feel like they live in their own little bubble a bit too much. > The announcement of an updated Steam Deck I think this is way too soon, it's only been out just over a year. It reminds me of people convinced the Switch Pro will be just around the corner. They may come out with a better Steam Deck, but I don't think it will be for a while (and I personally hope they don't move into some annual upgrade pattern). > We will see some sort of VR device for the Steam Deck in 2023 I just can't picture how this would even work. They're completely different products for different demographics, and trying to mush them together makes no sense. Maybe we'll get an updated Valve Index, but not some Steam Deck specific thing. > Next, I believe that there will be a AAA game exclusive for the Steam Deck in 2023. Even if Linux had sizable enough market share to justify not making a Windows port, there's nothing about the Steam Deck hardware that would make a game Deck only. > This is my longshot… I predict a Steam-based console comparable to the Xbox or PS5 will be announced before the end of this year. A longshot indeed. I don't think there's even the slightest chance of this, especially given the fate of the Steam machines. > Epic provides official support for Linux on the EGS and puts Heroic Games Launcher out of business > Finally, GOG annouces official Linux support for GOG Galaxy I think these ships have sailed. As much as I and everyone else wanted GOG Galaxy for Linux, they seem disinclined to do so. Epic seems even less likely to support anything other than Windows. > Ubuntu has lost its top spot as the gaming Linux platform. This I believe actually. I think Arch-based distros have been higher on the Steam survey for a while, and I don't see that changing.

fendy3002 4y ago
> there's nothing about the Steam Deck hardware that would make a game Deck only. Yes, AAA exclusive for steam deck is too unrealistic. However AA or indies with steam deck-first platform may be emerging, that they'll focus on the screen size and controls of deck.
- brucethemoose2 4y ago
  Yeah, but they would have to be crazy to make the games linux exclusive. Even if you set the shut out market thing aside, Proton is an excellent platform to target. Theres basically no disadvantage vs targeting linux native unless your game is java+opengl or something.
brucethemoose2 4y ago
> I predict a Steam-based console comparable to the Xbox or PS5 Theres this perception that the Deck SoC is fully custom (and therefore Valve ordering another from AMD or upgrading it is quite possible). But the initial capital costs for such a thing are enormous... probably 10 figures if its a big chip on a cutting edge node now. The Deck just doesn't have the kind of volume the PS5/XSX do. Hence this old leak makes me think Van Gogh is a laptop part that OEMs (other than Valve) just didnt pick up: https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-mobile-apus-for-2021-2022-detailed-first-navi2-igpu-coming-with-vangogh https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-mobile-apus-for-2021-2022-de... Same goes for the screen. I dont think Valve is custom ordering the LCDs (otherwise they would be VRR), and they aren't going OLED unless they stumble upon an existing part thats just right. Again, Nintendo is big enough to amortize away a custom OLED.
7speter 4y ago
>I just can't picture how this would even work. They're completely different products for different demographics, and trying to mush them together makes no sense. Maybe we'll get an updated Valve Index, but not some Steam Deck specific thing. I kind of think the Steam Deck is going to eventually morph into a VR device itself. Assuming continual progress of some form or another in shrinking and packing transistors on a die, there are probably going to be APUs that match VR performance of a 3070, performance which will be seen as entry level, or even irrelevant for discreet gpus and desktop rigs in 2030, but mostly fine for casual users who want a portable device that can play vr. I could be totally wrong though.
999900000999 4y ago
Isn't the Steam Deck itself a reasonable console. The Switch does well for the same reason, people are okay with losing some of that AAA quality if they can game on the go. I guess a 800$ Steam Deck would be significantly more powerful to the point where the quality would be enough for most.
bongobingo1 4y ago
> > Epic provides official support for Linux on the EGS and puts Heroic Games Launcher out of business > Finally, GOG annouces official Linux support for GOG Galaxy Epic (or maybe just Sweeny) has seemed actively hostile towards Linux in the last year or so if only to throw mud at Valve.

by aquova 4y ago

fendy3002 4y ago

> there's nothing about the Steam Deck hardware that would make a game Deck only. Yes, AAA exclusive for steam deck is too unrealistic. However AA or indies with steam deck-first platform may be emerging, that they'll focus on the screen size and controls of deck.

brucethemoose2 4y ago
Yeah, but they would have to be crazy to make the games linux exclusive. Even if you set the shut out market thing aside, Proton is an excellent platform to target. Theres basically no disadvantage vs targeting linux native unless your game is java+opengl or something.

brucethemoose2 4y ago

> I predict a Steam-based console comparable to the Xbox or PS5 Theres this perception that the Deck SoC is fully custom (and therefore Valve ordering another from AMD or upgrading it is quite possible). But the initial capital costs for such a thing are enormous... probably 10 figures if its a big chip on a cutting edge node now. The Deck just doesn't have the kind of volume the PS5/XSX do. Hence this old leak makes me think Van Gogh is a laptop part that OEMs (other than Valve) just didnt pick up: https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-mobile-apus-for-2021-2022-detailed-first-navi2-igpu-coming-with-vangogh https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-mobile-apus-for-2021-2022-de... Same goes for the screen. I dont think Valve is custom ordering the LCDs (otherwise they would be VRR), and they aren't going OLED unless they stumble upon an existing part thats just right. Again, Nintendo is big enough to amortize away a custom OLED.

7speter 4y ago

>I just can't picture how this would even work. They're completely different products for different demographics, and trying to mush them together makes no sense. Maybe we'll get an updated Valve Index, but not some Steam Deck specific thing. I kind of think the Steam Deck is going to eventually morph into a VR device itself. Assuming continual progress of some form or another in shrinking and packing transistors on a die, there are probably going to be APUs that match VR performance of a 3070, performance which will be seen as entry level, or even irrelevant for discreet gpus and desktop rigs in 2030, but mostly fine for casual users who want a portable device that can play vr. I could be totally wrong though.

999900000999 4y ago

Isn't the Steam Deck itself a reasonable console. The Switch does well for the same reason, people are okay with losing some of that AAA quality if they can game on the go. I guess a 800$ Steam Deck would be significantly more powerful to the point where the quality would be enough for most.

bongobingo1 4y ago

> > Epic provides official support for Linux on the EGS and puts Heroic Games Launcher out of business > Finally, GOG annouces official Linux support for GOG Galaxy Epic (or maybe just Sweeny) has seemed actively hostile towards Linux in the last year or so if only to throw mud at Valve.