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My company immediately sues anyone who leave to join a competitor, and even more viciously attacks I would assume if someone were to actually start a competing

My company immediately sues anyone who leave to join a competitor, and even more viciously attacks I would assume if someone were to actually start a competing business.

tru3_power 4y ago
On what grounds do they sue them?
- letier 4y ago
  I’d guess the contracts have a no compete clause.
- adgjlsfhk1 4y ago
  Corporate lawsuits against individuals generally don't need grounds. The pain is the point.
  - bavila 4y ago
    What's groundless is this mentality. Please read Rule 11 of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure (a rule that is also well-adopted in state courts as well). As fun as it is to hate on big tech, one should still be mindful of the fact that their attorneys aren't stupid enough to file patently frivolous lawsuits that put their own law licenses on the line.
    - Miraste 4y ago
      Has any corporate attorney ever been disbarred for filing frivolous lawsuits against individuals on behalf of their company? It's certainly not a common occurrence.
- mlindner 4y ago
  Many because they stole company secrets, or actually hacked the company's servers and walked out with company documents.
dilyevsky 4y ago
Just dont tell them
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tenpies 4y ago
So do Elon's companies: https://www.engadget.com/tesla-sues-engineer-dojo-trade-secret-theft-150510141.html https://www.engadget.com/tesla-sues-engineer-dojo-trade-secr... https://www.businessinsider.com/tesla-lawsuit-supercomputer-dojo-engineer-2022-5 https://www.businessinsider.com/tesla-lawsuit-supercomputer-... https://techcrunch.com/2018/06/20/tesla-sues-former-employee-sabotage/ https://techcrunch.com/2018/06/20/tesla-sues-former-employee... --- I think the key is that these startups aren't competing with SpaceX, but are rather SpaceX-adjacent. There is also a uniqueness to the industry that SpaceX operates in, in that everyone is basically the US government, or the US government with a layer of paint. SpaceX isn't exactly going to sue the hand that feeds it, even if it's wearing a Boeing-logo glove.
- Tuna-Fish 4y ago
  The two big ones, Relativity and Firefly, are definitely direct competitors. As to the lawsuits, generally don't take any of your employers code or data with you when you leave, and you'll be fine.
  - jdhendrickson 4y ago
    That has not been my experience. If they have deep pockets they draw out the court case in an effort to make you quit, and the stress literally kills people. In the end I agree vindication will come if you can afford to defend yourself, hire your own experts and retain competent council but your comment is a bit glib.
  - quartesixte 4y ago
    It helps that rocketry is 1) kind of a solved problem 2) a lot of unsolved problems get solved by NASA scientists so is open sourced 3) the laws of physics demand that certain outcomes.
- zizee 4y ago
  >> My company immediately sues anyone who leave to join a competitor > So do Elon's companies Sorry to be pedantic, but there is a big difference between "sues anyone", and Tesla suing what must be a small percentage of leavers. And your links describe lawsuits not for "leaving and joining a competitor", but for sabotage and trying to walk out with trade secrets, schematics and code.
outside1234 4y ago
Move to California, that shit don't fly here
abledon 4y ago
Nexxon?
schaefer 4y ago
Can you tell us which company so we can collectively blackball them? Please and thank you.

My company immediately sues anyone who leave to join a competitor, and even more viciously attacks I would assume if someone were to actually start a competing business.

tru3_power 4y ago

On what grounds do they sue them?

letier 4y ago
I’d guess the contracts have a no compete clause.
adgjlsfhk1 4y ago
Corporate lawsuits against individuals generally don't need grounds. The pain is the point.
- bavila 4y ago
  What's groundless is this mentality. Please read Rule 11 of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure (a rule that is also well-adopted in state courts as well). As fun as it is to hate on big tech, one should still be mindful of the fact that their attorneys aren't stupid enough to file patently frivolous lawsuits that put their own law licenses on the line.
  - Miraste 4y ago
    Has any corporate attorney ever been disbarred for filing frivolous lawsuits against individuals on behalf of their company? It's certainly not a common occurrence.
mlindner 4y ago
Many because they stole company secrets, or actually hacked the company's servers and walked out with company documents.

dilyevsky 4y ago

Just dont tell them

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tenpies 4y ago

So do Elon's companies: https://www.engadget.com/tesla-sues-engineer-dojo-trade-secret-theft-150510141.html https://www.engadget.com/tesla-sues-engineer-dojo-trade-secr... https://www.businessinsider.com/tesla-lawsuit-supercomputer-dojo-engineer-2022-5 https://www.businessinsider.com/tesla-lawsuit-supercomputer-... https://techcrunch.com/2018/06/20/tesla-sues-former-employee-sabotage/ https://techcrunch.com/2018/06/20/tesla-sues-former-employee... --- I think the key is that these startups aren't competing with SpaceX, but are rather SpaceX-adjacent. There is also a uniqueness to the industry that SpaceX operates in, in that everyone is basically the US government, or the US government with a layer of paint. SpaceX isn't exactly going to sue the hand that feeds it, even if it's wearing a Boeing-logo glove.

Tuna-Fish 4y ago
The two big ones, Relativity and Firefly, are definitely direct competitors. As to the lawsuits, generally don't take any of your employers code or data with you when you leave, and you'll be fine.
- jdhendrickson 4y ago
  That has not been my experience. If they have deep pockets they draw out the court case in an effort to make you quit, and the stress literally kills people. In the end I agree vindication will come if you can afford to defend yourself, hire your own experts and retain competent council but your comment is a bit glib.
- quartesixte 4y ago
  It helps that rocketry is 1) kind of a solved problem 2) a lot of unsolved problems get solved by NASA scientists so is open sourced 3) the laws of physics demand that certain outcomes.
zizee 4y ago
>> My company immediately sues anyone who leave to join a competitor > So do Elon's companies Sorry to be pedantic, but there is a big difference between "sues anyone", and Tesla suing what must be a small percentage of leavers. And your links describe lawsuits not for "leaving and joining a competitor", but for sabotage and trying to walk out with trade secrets, schematics and code.

outside1234 4y ago

Move to California, that shit don't fly here

abledon 4y ago

Nexxon?

schaefer 4y ago

Can you tell us which company so we can collectively blackball them? Please and thank you.