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It is hubris. Google thinks it can get away with anything, since they're the market leader. The reality is that a certain number of people will migrate to Firef

by whstl 4y ago

It is hubris. Google thinks it can get away with anything, since they're the market leader. The reality is that a certain number of people will migrate to Firefox over AdBlockers not working well anymore, and will give FF a second life. And those are the people who helped get Chrome off the ground by installing on the computers of relatives and recommending to friends.

bornfreddy 4y ago
This, 1000 times. There is only one thing a monopoly holder is afraid of - losing the monopoly.
- hyperman1 4y ago
  Im not sure Google understands they have and profit from a monopoly. When the EU sued Microsoft, the reaction inside and outside differed wildly. Outside, there was a 'finally' feeling. Inside, Microsoftees went from denial straight to shock. They just could not understand they had become the bad guys. They still lived in the 80s, where Microsoft was hailed as the saviour from the IBM monopoly. They might admit some individual trouble spots, but did not see these as connected to a bigger problem or core company culture. Microsoft believed their detractors were a small deluded noisy minority, but surely not the common opinion. Google is in for a rude awakening.
ethbr0 4y ago
I don't think that's the underlying cause. The Google product teams I've interacted with didn't seem like they cared they were a market leader. Aside from "In the making a good product" sense. They literally just didn't understand what people not-them were doing and refused to consider it. I remember I ditched Chrome ~2014 because I had an issue with the default download handling. Maybe auto-saving/non-standard location? I dug around and found a bug report on it, that had been open for multiple years, with multiple Google engineers looking and commenting on it, and arguing that users would never need a config option to do... what multiple users for multiple years were asking for.

by whstl 4y ago

bornfreddy 4y ago

This, 1000 times. There is only one thing a monopoly holder is afraid of - losing the monopoly.

hyperman1 4y ago
Im not sure Google understands they have and profit from a monopoly. When the EU sued Microsoft, the reaction inside and outside differed wildly. Outside, there was a 'finally' feeling. Inside, Microsoftees went from denial straight to shock. They just could not understand they had become the bad guys. They still lived in the 80s, where Microsoft was hailed as the saviour from the IBM monopoly. They might admit some individual trouble spots, but did not see these as connected to a bigger problem or core company culture. Microsoft believed their detractors were a small deluded noisy minority, but surely not the common opinion. Google is in for a rude awakening.

ethbr0 4y ago

I don't think that's the underlying cause. The Google product teams I've interacted with didn't seem like they cared they were a market leader. Aside from "In the making a good product" sense. They literally just didn't understand what people not-them were doing and refused to consider it. I remember I ditched Chrome ~2014 because I had an issue with the default download handling. Maybe auto-saving/non-standard location? I dug around and found a bug report on it, that had been open for multiple years, with multiple Google engineers looking and commenting on it, and arguing that users would never need a config option to do... what multiple users for multiple years were asking for.