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Many of those employees have changed their minds about military contracts in this new cold war era.
by beebmam 4y ago
Many of those employees have changed their minds about military contracts in this new cold war era.
- InCityDreams 4y agoAmerica! What is in your military now, eventually ends up in the hands of the civilian police. *and other countries are following. Fucking, sadly.
- sebzim4500 4y agoWhat the hell are they going to do with an M1 Abrams? Having said that, I dread to see what the NYPD manage to achieve with an F-35B.
- krainboltgreene 4y agoTrump tried to convince officials to use tanks to combat the Portland protests while he was president.
- cowl 4y agoIf I'm not mistaken their opposition was on principle not whether it was needed or not. So the fact that we are in a new cold war era does not change that Equation. The principle is still the same. The only way for this "change of mind" is if their opposition was due to "it's not needed because US has no rivals". Or what most probably happened, they realised that if they want to keep workign on this field there is no escape from those kind of implications and They don't have the big bad wolf Google to blame anymore.
- jeremyjh 4y agoAnd then Russia invades Ukraine and people change their minds about what is important, and what is possible.
- cowl 4y agoBut that's my point. If their opposition was not on principle but based on the naive Idea that "we will live in peace and harmony", I really am afraid what other naive principles are in the bases of their work and what safeguards are being set in place for the AIs.
- jeremyjh 4y agoThere is a such thing as being principled and then finding out you were naive.
- mistermann 4y agoThere is also the substantial effectiveness of propaganda, and the fact that it is essentially impossible to know if one's beliefs/"facts" have been conditioned by it. That most discussions on such matters typically devolve rapidly into the regurgitation of unsound memes doesn't help matters much either.
- sebzim4500 4y agoSure, but it is equally likely that your old perspective was the result of propaganda and your new one is a rational adjustment in the face of new information. Or that both are propaganda, I suppose.
- mistermann 4y agoThat's the standard loop, but there are ways out.
- cowl 4y agoofcourse but then you still must have some principles and be as loud about how naive you were as you were when you were protesting the thing in the first place.
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- pen2l 4y agoWhen I was a young person, I used to deride writings like 1984 on the grounds that the scenarios and stories presented to carry the message were too far-fetched. Reading your comment has set off an epiphany, I think I get it now, there probably exists some higher-up person who is thinking along these lines: we must always be in a state of war, for if we are, the populace will want to be ready and willing to fund the instruments of war. And we always want to be ready for war, because if ever we are not, we lose our capability to win a potential future war. For our very survival we must contribute our efforts to build these instruments of war. War is constant. War is peace.
- HyperSane 4y agoThe more powerful your military is the less likely you will need to use it to defend yourself.
- MichaelZuo 4y agoFrom near-peer opponents, yes. But it increases the temptation to use it against weaker opponents.
- HyperSane 4y agoOffensive use of a military is a very different thing.
- MichaelZuo 4y agoIn the real world there are no clear cut boundaries like that so it’s military action either way.
- piuantiderp 4y agoCool, so now they're gonna fight some elites' wars?