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Paul, can you point at anything at all other than your general vibes that would indicate that anyone from LessWrong intends to literally participate in mass sui
by ctoth 4y ago
Paul, can you point at anything at all other than your general vibes that would indicate that anyone from LessWrong intends to literally participate in mass suicide, as your link implies? Did I miss the big group buy of phenobarbital?
- skrebbel 4y agoI’m not Paul, but this here has some serious Jonestown overtones: https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/j9Q8bRmwCgXRYAgcJ/miri-announces-new-death-with-dignity-strategy https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/j9Q8bRmwCgXRYAgcJ/miri-annou.... It makes Yudkowski seem (to me) like the leader of a suicide cult more than anything else. The argument “yeah but what if he’s right?” is pretty much Pascal’s Wager by now, given how way out there the AI Doomers have gotten. I choose not to worry about the God from the Bible (ie I don’t make make Pascal’s Wager) so why should I worry about this new Evil Nerd-God Apocalypse? Don’t drink the Kool-Aid, kids!
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- charcoalhobo 4y agoFYI this article was published on April 1 and is labelled as "April Fool's".
- skrebbel 4y agohhhahaahha woa I missed that completely I'm pretty sure i'm not the only one who took it seriously. Thanks! I wonder if mr LeCun made the same mistake, it's just... almost believable! Good April fools joke I gotta admit. EDIT: it's now 5 minutes later and I'm still laughing. I believed for months that Yudkowski had started a death cult.
- cubefox 4y agoIt wasn't entirely in jest. See this article, published a short while later: https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/uMQ3cqWDPHhjtiesc/agi-ruin-a-list-of-lethalities https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/uMQ3cqWDPHhjtiesc/agi-ruin-a... And more recently: https://time.com/6266923/ai-eliezer-yudkowsky-open-letter-not-enough/ https://time.com/6266923/ai-eliezer-yudkowsky-open-letter-no...
- skrebbel 4y agoSure, but the thing about starting a suicide cult was.
- cma 4y agoDidnt they change recently to a "death with dignity" AI strategy? Now their leader is saying 50% we should have bombed Wuhan and the only reason for an individual not to firebomb an AI datacenter is because they'll just build back another: https://www.twitter.com/ESYudkowsky/status/1641410729667596288 https://www.twitter.com/ESYudkowsky/status/16414107296675962...
- skrebbel 4y ago> Didnt they change recently to a "death with dignity" AI strategy? That was an April Fools joke! Yeah I just found out today as well (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35402472 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35402472). Worked a little too well huh
- cma 4y agoSeems they are really taking the AI threat seriously then. And it is all the same stuff he's been saying on recent podcasts so it is a year-long April Fools joke. I heard the death with dignity thing repeated in a Peter Thiel speech as a criticism of them.