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Hey, congratulations SF. You spent over a decade whining about tech-bros and Google buses. Guess those problems are solved now!

by floren 4y ago

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jeffbee 4y ago
I think the fact that Prop J cruised to victory and Prop I went down in flames shows that the influence of the old guard is waning. There is a proliferation of groups trying to flex tech money in SF politics: Grow SF, Abundant SF, Together SF. And they are aligned with state politicians who get the goods like Weiner, Newsom, and Haney. Supervisor Peskin is termed out, again, in 2024 and Preston and his band of fake-ass socialists are going to get a serious challenger
- rahimnathwani 4y ago
  I'd put Haney in the same bucket as Preston. https://twitter.com/garrytan/status/1410107988505890817 https://twitter.com/garrytan/status/1410107988505890817
- lkjwelkjlk3t 4y ago
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  - lkjwelkjlk3t 4y ago
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    - JumpCrisscross 4y ago
      > Downvote all you want You called for violence against a public official. Also: “Please don't comment about the voting on comments. It never does any good, and it makes boring reading” [1]. > Did Weiner not help pass a bill to legalize raping underage boys? Did they? Provide a source. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
      - decremental 4y ago
        Yeah he wanted to make it legal for underage gay boys and older gay men to have sex. That guy pushes all kinds of weird sex stuff related to kids.
- dangrover 4y ago
  Yes, Haney was originally very NIMBY in his politics but has become more moderate.
- dangrover 4y ago
  Tech money should be flexed in politics more. We’re paying taxes too, right?
  - jeffbee 4y ago
    Way more than fucking Dede Wilsey is paying.
  - dragonwriter 4y ago
    There has literally never been a time in the history of capitalistm when capitalist wealth from any industry wasn’t being flexed in politics for the interests of the particular capitalists (and, as a natural collateral effect, the industry) involved.
    - jeffbee 4y ago
      These parties are labor parties.
    - dehrmann 4y ago
      Because of SF's structure with its board of supervisors, I don't think tech had much influence in SF outside FiDi/SoMa/Mission Bay. After this (SFUSD's delay of algebra 1 has created a nightmare of workarounds) https://www.sfexaminer.com/forum/put-algebra-1-back-in-eighth-grade/article_01ca608e-be01-11ed-9d12-5fb4111a4db8.html https://www.sfexaminer.com/forum/put-algebra-1-back-in-eight... It's pretty clear tech isn't making the rules.
thot_experiment 4y ago
after the huggingface event last night a group of us wasn't let into a bar/club because "y'all are nerds, we don't want your patronage" I don't think it's solved enough yet for their taste, what a beautifully schizoid city, never change, we should just throw money at the problem forever as a monument to hubris XD
- AndrewKemendo 4y ago
  I'm super interested in this story. Can you elaborate more on the context please?
  - thot_experiment 4y ago
    I will simply leave you with this image by way of explanation: https://thiic.cc/heavy/huggingface_bar.jpg https://thiic.cc/heavy/huggingface_bar.jpg
- Der_Einzige 4y ago
  The resentment happening from society towards us is spiraling out of control, and I say this as someone who was also at that meetup event yesterday. Pretty sad but we should expect it given how fast AI is going to hurt a lot of these people. The world is finding that they want to always treat us nerds how they treated us in our formative years...
  - JumpCrisscross 4y ago
    > we should expect it given how fast AI is going to hurt a lot of these people It has nothing to do with tangible harm and a lot with the attitude of techno public figures, as well as, in San Francisco, the civic detachment of its tech workers.
    - Der_Einzige 4y ago
      Why should we expect "civic attachment" when nerds are literally hardcore bullied from the beginning in our media, in our schools, and now, they're starting getting bullied for being cerebral nerds by the bars of the one city that's supposed to be theirs. I don't blame them tbh. Frankly, society should be very happy uniquely for the "nerds at the HF event" since those nerds are working very hard on open source and democratic AI, which is basically the only protection that the non nerds of SF have against the coming AI job apocalypse.
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Hey, congratulations SF. You spent over a decade whining about tech-bros and Google buses. Guess those problems are solved now!

by floren 4y ago

Hey, congratulations SF. You spent over a decade whining about tech-bros and Google buses. Guess those problems are solved now!

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jeffbee 4y ago

I think the fact that Prop J cruised to victory and Prop I went down in flames shows that the influence of the old guard is waning. There is a proliferation of groups trying to flex tech money in SF politics: Grow SF, Abundant SF, Together SF. And they are aligned with state politicians who get the goods like Weiner, Newsom, and Haney. Supervisor Peskin is termed out, again, in 2024 and Preston and his band of fake-ass socialists are going to get a serious challenger

rahimnathwani 4y ago
I'd put Haney in the same bucket as Preston. https://twitter.com/garrytan/status/1410107988505890817 https://twitter.com/garrytan/status/1410107988505890817
lkjwelkjlk3t 4y ago
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- lkjwelkjlk3t 4y ago
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  - JumpCrisscross 4y ago
    > Downvote all you want You called for violence against a public official. Also: “Please don't comment about the voting on comments. It never does any good, and it makes boring reading” [1]. > Did Weiner not help pass a bill to legalize raping underage boys? Did they? Provide a source. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
    - decremental 4y ago
      Yeah he wanted to make it legal for underage gay boys and older gay men to have sex. That guy pushes all kinds of weird sex stuff related to kids.
dangrover 4y ago
Yes, Haney was originally very NIMBY in his politics but has become more moderate.
dangrover 4y ago
Tech money should be flexed in politics more. We’re paying taxes too, right?
- jeffbee 4y ago
  Way more than fucking Dede Wilsey is paying.
- dragonwriter 4y ago
  There has literally never been a time in the history of capitalistm when capitalist wealth from any industry wasn’t being flexed in politics for the interests of the particular capitalists (and, as a natural collateral effect, the industry) involved.
  - jeffbee 4y ago
    These parties are labor parties.
  - dehrmann 4y ago
    Because of SF's structure with its board of supervisors, I don't think tech had much influence in SF outside FiDi/SoMa/Mission Bay. After this (SFUSD's delay of algebra 1 has created a nightmare of workarounds) https://www.sfexaminer.com/forum/put-algebra-1-back-in-eighth-grade/article_01ca608e-be01-11ed-9d12-5fb4111a4db8.html https://www.sfexaminer.com/forum/put-algebra-1-back-in-eight... It's pretty clear tech isn't making the rules.

thot_experiment 4y ago

after the huggingface event last night a group of us wasn't let into a bar/club because "y'all are nerds, we don't want your patronage" I don't think it's solved enough yet for their taste, what a beautifully schizoid city, never change, we should just throw money at the problem forever as a monument to hubris XD

AndrewKemendo 4y ago
I'm super interested in this story. Can you elaborate more on the context please?
- thot_experiment 4y ago
  I will simply leave you with this image by way of explanation: https://thiic.cc/heavy/huggingface_bar.jpg https://thiic.cc/heavy/huggingface_bar.jpg
Der_Einzige 4y ago
The resentment happening from society towards us is spiraling out of control, and I say this as someone who was also at that meetup event yesterday. Pretty sad but we should expect it given how fast AI is going to hurt a lot of these people. The world is finding that they want to always treat us nerds how they treated us in our formative years...
- JumpCrisscross 4y ago
  > we should expect it given how fast AI is going to hurt a lot of these people It has nothing to do with tangible harm and a lot with the attitude of techno public figures, as well as, in San Francisco, the civic detachment of its tech workers.
  - Der_Einzige 4y ago
    Why should we expect "civic attachment" when nerds are literally hardcore bullied from the beginning in our media, in our schools, and now, they're starting getting bullied for being cerebral nerds by the bars of the one city that's supposed to be theirs. I don't blame them tbh. Frankly, society should be very happy uniquely for the "nerds at the HF event" since those nerds are working very hard on open source and democratic AI, which is basically the only protection that the non nerds of SF have against the coming AI job apocalypse.

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