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At some point it will make sense to start a new slack/teams replacement. We’re close.
by flappyeagle 4y ago
At some point it will make sense to start a new slack/teams replacement. We’re close.
- CameronNemo 4y agoAnything missing from Matrix (and clients) from your POV?
- flappyeagle 4y agoIt’s not better than slack in any way that matters to a corporate user
- oblio 4y agoCan I send a scheduled message even if my client is down, with Matrix?
- Arathorn 4y agowe’re working on scheduled msgs currently (it’s hard because you don’t know what devices will be i the room by the time the msg sends, and so who to encrypt for)
- malermeister 4y agoI think Mattermost might fit the bill?
- flappyeagle 4y agoIt does not. It’s basically worse slack.
- imwithstoopid 4y agoits free-as-in-beer which is all 99% of orgs want it also provides 99% of the functionality most orgs actually care about
- flappyeagle 4y agoYou’ve clearly never run an org. Cost is one of many factors that matters. MS teams is also free as in beer when I’m already buying office.
- imwithstoopid 4y agoI've run mattermost for a moderate sized team while doing my dev duties, it was never a bother...what specific problems did you have? I maybe spent fifteen minutes a month on upgrades
- flappyeagle 4y agoI do not want to have a piece of undifferentiated infrastructure at my org to be tied to the employment, enthusiasm and attention of a particular engineer.
- kennydude 4y agoWhat does it need to become a product better than Slack?
- flappyeagle 4y agoIt needs to have better features and better support.
- kennydude 4y agoWhat features are you looking for? I'm sure I've seen the Mattermost/Gitlab team browse here in the past and having something actionable would help them get there
- flappyeagle 4y agoI don’t know. As someone making IT decisions, I can really only look at the options on the market and compare them. Mattermost isn’t clearly better than Slack along dimensions that matter to most teams. Its product management strategy seems to be “we have the same features as slack but you can self host”.
- scottdevries 4y agoWe use Discord as a Slack alternative, and have for a couple years. It's perfect for a remote company, especially if you also run chat/messaging for customers and users.
- insane_dreamer 4y agoI know the upsides, but what do you lose if you switch from Slack to Discord?
- esafak 4y agoYour sanity. Discord is insanely cluttered. It's made for people who aren't trying to get any work done.
- pid-1 4y agoHow do you deal with security? - No SSO - No way to enforce MFA, restrict logins to trusted devices and IPs, etc... - No message / audit logs I like discord for personal use, no way I would use it professionally
- DANmode 4y agoThere's no way to enforce MFA? How do you figure? Give new users a very short window, or not able to use until their hardware key, phone enclave, etc is registered for MFA. You could even go as far as to send pre-registered hardware keys by mail, or have them picked up from HQ upon hire. Certainly would have solved some of the recent "who actually works in infra at Twitter" debacle, now that I'm thinking about it.
- flappyeagle 4y agoA lot of people are replying with suggestions of discord, mattermost etc. Those are not very different than slack in terms of UX and much less capable in many ways that matter (integrations etc) It’s almost time for something actually new Something that makes remote work better than in person by existing. It has to be so good that people stop talking to each other at the office once they have this tool.
- samcheng 4y ago> It has to be so good that people stop talking to each other at the office once they have this tool. Slack itself did this in my experience.
- purple_ferret 4y agoI agree, perhaps they can call it something like HipChat. Has a nice ring to it.