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Audio is great, iff you have a soundbar or a good set of headphones. The problem is that a decent portion of the audience don't and there is no fallback to more

Audio is great, iff you have a soundbar or a good set of headphones. The problem is that a decent portion of the audience don't and there is no fallback to more classic audio mixing. This means that you either have to create for the lowest common dominator or accept that what they get is shit. As you said we would expect to be chewed out if we did that, but for some reason films are different. To be honest I can see it both ways, as I don't have a soundbar or an oled display, but at the same time why should that hold back those who have paid 4 or 5 times the cost of my setup? If what I have is crap, shouldn't I expect that movies are not looking very good? You can do some truly amazing things with just audio[0], but it does require a certain dynamic range on the receiver. As an example: https://darkerprojects.com/lostfrontier/st-lf-season-1-ep-001-hope/ https://darkerprojects.com/lostfrontier/st-lf-season-1-ep-00..., which is a podcast radio play.

b112 4y ago
Audio is great Some cases, yes the sound setup helps. Other cases, such as actors "mumbling", sound setup does nothing. Gibberish is just gibberish.
- tomjen3 4y ago
  I don't believe actors mumble in general. I am ESL, but I can follow along just fine without subtitles, as long as I use my headphones. The same show with just the speakers in my Macbook and the actors were heard to understand. Of course there are a couple actors that makes it harder: Marlow Brandon or people who speak with a pronounced Southern Accent. But in general I keep hearing this complaint from people who are using the inbuilt speakers.
nemo44x 4y ago
I think dynamic range is so foreign to people nowadays since music hasn’t had any in over 20 years. People aren’t used to it anymore. And you’re right, many people don’t have the things you need to make it sound good. It’s almost like they should have a mastering for bad TVs with crap audio.
- masklinn 4y ago
  Of course they should. There’s lots of people out there who watch their movies on TV with the built-in speakers, or on their tablet or laptop. A TV mix used to be normal, not everybody has the money, space, or desire for a dedicated movie room with an Atmos setup.

b112 4y ago

Audio is great Some cases, yes the sound setup helps. Other cases, such as actors "mumbling", sound setup does nothing. Gibberish is just gibberish.

tomjen3 4y ago
I don't believe actors mumble in general. I am ESL, but I can follow along just fine without subtitles, as long as I use my headphones. The same show with just the speakers in my Macbook and the actors were heard to understand. Of course there are a couple actors that makes it harder: Marlow Brandon or people who speak with a pronounced Southern Accent. But in general I keep hearing this complaint from people who are using the inbuilt speakers.

nemo44x 4y ago

I think dynamic range is so foreign to people nowadays since music hasn’t had any in over 20 years. People aren’t used to it anymore. And you’re right, many people don’t have the things you need to make it sound good. It’s almost like they should have a mastering for bad TVs with crap audio.

masklinn 4y ago
Of course they should. There’s lots of people out there who watch their movies on TV with the built-in speakers, or on their tablet or laptop. A TV mix used to be normal, not everybody has the money, space, or desire for a dedicated movie room with an Atmos setup.