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Vegans aren't going to have anything to eat now... /s In all seriousness, this is wild.

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akomtu 4y ago
What's wild about it? Plants shrink when drying up and that collapses tiny cavities in their stems. It's only surprising that this sound can be detected so easily.
- Euphorbium 4y ago
  If you camp in spring near fast growing grasses or bushes, you can clearly hear them grow.
  - krisoft 4y ago
    How do you know what you are hearing is them “growing” instead of wind rustling them or insects moving around?
    - steve_adams_86 4y ago
      In my experience they have been distinct sounds of pressure and movement between plant fibres, in ways that the wind or insects wouldn’t or couldn’t cause in that setting. If you lay still on a warm, quiet, still day in spring in a field or meadow, you might hear a lot of sounds you otherwise haven’t and wouldn’t expect. There’s a lot of activity. Sometimes plants will let some leaves or blades free after a seed husk finally breaks under their weight. It’s just gravity and pressure at work, but you’ll hear these things frequently. This sort of thing reminds me of learning to find mushrooms. I had no idea mushrooms are everywhere until I started looking. They occupy all kinds of spaces in various seasons, dependent on a rain, a species of tree, or a sudden warmth after a cool period. Once you see them, they’re everywhere. Similarly, plants and their myriad processes kind of jump out at you once you observe them closely. Before then they may seem relatively inert.
    - pessimizer 4y ago
      It's not a guess. It's simply a fact that you can hear some fast-growing plants growing. No need to personally investigate unless you want to. Rhubarb: https://soundcloud.com/rhubarb-rhubarb-rhubarb/a-mass-of-popping-rhubarb https://soundcloud.com/rhubarb-rhubarb-rhubarb/a-mass-of-pop... Bamboo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HkhBxBZELk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HkhBxBZELk Corn: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76xEkEXI2a4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76xEkEXI2a4
  - twothamendment 4y ago
    I've heard the buds on the end of a branch busting their way out of the dryer outer layer. It was calm. At first I thought bugs, but finally realized what it was. It was much harder to hear than beetles boring their way into a tree.
  - mcswell 4y ago
    Maybe you can hear paint dry, too.
- steponlego 4y ago
  A pig's squeals when it's slaughtered is merely air passing through the constricted trachea.
arcanemachiner 4y ago
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- steve_adams_86 4y ago
  I don’t think we’re all that murderous at all unless we’re subjected to acute, severe stresses and/or maladaptive processes (usually early in life). I genuinely care about the well being of other living things and would hate to be in a position where I felt murder was necessary. I know I’m not alone. Seeing how war affects soldiers, I suspect the experience of killing and witnessing death is typically very traumatic to humans. It appears that animal processing facilities also inflict trauma on many workers, so it isn’t only killing humans that can harm us. We’re very good at killing, but I don’t think we innately like it or tend towards it outside of procuring food. Even then, not all of us eat animals. Look at the lengths we go to hide death and murder when we do it. From war to agricultural systems, we go to great lengths to pretend it’s something it’s not so we can stomach what we’re doing or buying into. The closer we get to the individuals effected, the more reprehensible I think we tend to find it. If we were truly murderous I suspect we wouldn’t behave in that way. I could be wrong — I’m very biased.
  - withinboredom 4y ago
    Without modern agriculture + nutrition, I don’t think you could survive without eating meat (if I’m wrong, feel free to ignore the rest of this). That means you have to murder an animal to live and don’t really get a choice in the matter. This why we are inherently murderous. Sure, these days we pay other people to do it, but when you pick up a burger; that cow was murdered — hopefully humanly.
    - olyjohn 4y ago
      Hmm. I don't agree that all killing is murder.
      - steve_adams_86 4y ago
        Certainly not. Some is merciful and – in the case of dignified deaths – by old and modern laws, totally consensual as well. Sometimes death is appropriate even if it’s not what was hoped for. It’s not an easy distinction to make by any means, but it’s a distinction that humans have believed to exist for millennia at least.
mistrial9 4y ago
this is the sub-conscious contra-positive of the news that many intelligent red meat eaters know and do not want to hear "You" group-not-me "must" getting-orders-or-else "eat" what is on everyone's mind most of the waking hours of life "now" no choices Vegans are a portion of a percent of the human population, maybe a bit more around YNews.. meanwhile how many red meat eaters out there? reading now?

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What's wild about it? Plants shrink when drying up and that collapses tiny cavities in their stems. It's only surprising that this sound can be detected so easily.

Euphorbium 4y ago
If you camp in spring near fast growing grasses or bushes, you can clearly hear them grow.
- krisoft 4y ago
  How do you know what you are hearing is them “growing” instead of wind rustling them or insects moving around?
  - steve_adams_86 4y ago
    In my experience they have been distinct sounds of pressure and movement between plant fibres, in ways that the wind or insects wouldn’t or couldn’t cause in that setting. If you lay still on a warm, quiet, still day in spring in a field or meadow, you might hear a lot of sounds you otherwise haven’t and wouldn’t expect. There’s a lot of activity. Sometimes plants will let some leaves or blades free after a seed husk finally breaks under their weight. It’s just gravity and pressure at work, but you’ll hear these things frequently. This sort of thing reminds me of learning to find mushrooms. I had no idea mushrooms are everywhere until I started looking. They occupy all kinds of spaces in various seasons, dependent on a rain, a species of tree, or a sudden warmth after a cool period. Once you see them, they’re everywhere. Similarly, plants and their myriad processes kind of jump out at you once you observe them closely. Before then they may seem relatively inert.
  - pessimizer 4y ago
    It's not a guess. It's simply a fact that you can hear some fast-growing plants growing. No need to personally investigate unless you want to. Rhubarb: https://soundcloud.com/rhubarb-rhubarb-rhubarb/a-mass-of-popping-rhubarb https://soundcloud.com/rhubarb-rhubarb-rhubarb/a-mass-of-pop... Bamboo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HkhBxBZELk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HkhBxBZELk Corn: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76xEkEXI2a4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76xEkEXI2a4
- twothamendment 4y ago
  I've heard the buds on the end of a branch busting their way out of the dryer outer layer. It was calm. At first I thought bugs, but finally realized what it was. It was much harder to hear than beetles boring their way into a tree.
- mcswell 4y ago
  Maybe you can hear paint dry, too.
steponlego 4y ago
A pig's squeals when it's slaughtered is merely air passing through the constricted trachea.

arcanemachiner 4y ago

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steve_adams_86 4y ago
I don’t think we’re all that murderous at all unless we’re subjected to acute, severe stresses and/or maladaptive processes (usually early in life). I genuinely care about the well being of other living things and would hate to be in a position where I felt murder was necessary. I know I’m not alone. Seeing how war affects soldiers, I suspect the experience of killing and witnessing death is typically very traumatic to humans. It appears that animal processing facilities also inflict trauma on many workers, so it isn’t only killing humans that can harm us. We’re very good at killing, but I don’t think we innately like it or tend towards it outside of procuring food. Even then, not all of us eat animals. Look at the lengths we go to hide death and murder when we do it. From war to agricultural systems, we go to great lengths to pretend it’s something it’s not so we can stomach what we’re doing or buying into. The closer we get to the individuals effected, the more reprehensible I think we tend to find it. If we were truly murderous I suspect we wouldn’t behave in that way. I could be wrong — I’m very biased.
- withinboredom 4y ago
  Without modern agriculture + nutrition, I don’t think you could survive without eating meat (if I’m wrong, feel free to ignore the rest of this). That means you have to murder an animal to live and don’t really get a choice in the matter. This why we are inherently murderous. Sure, these days we pay other people to do it, but when you pick up a burger; that cow was murdered — hopefully humanly.
  - olyjohn 4y ago
    Hmm. I don't agree that all killing is murder.
    - steve_adams_86 4y ago
      Certainly not. Some is merciful and – in the case of dignified deaths – by old and modern laws, totally consensual as well. Sometimes death is appropriate even if it’s not what was hoped for. It’s not an easy distinction to make by any means, but it’s a distinction that humans have believed to exist for millennia at least.

mistrial9 4y ago

this is the sub-conscious contra-positive of the news that many intelligent red meat eaters know and do not want to hear "You" group-not-me "must" getting-orders-or-else "eat" what is on everyone's mind most of the waking hours of life "now" no choices Vegans are a portion of a percent of the human population, maybe a bit more around YNews.. meanwhile how many red meat eaters out there? reading now?