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I'm not in your field, but I read it as such from the get-go and I thought, "Yeah I know what this person is talking about – basically, not seeking someone who

I'm not in your field, but I read it as such from the get-go and I thought, "Yeah I know what this person is talking about – basically, not seeking someone who lays it on too thick about being in love with the company (or even the specific software/ work), but someone who reads the job description, and is fairly assured they are very capable of doing the work, and wants to do the work because it's interesting to them." It didn't sound to me like you're asking someone to be a zealot, sycophant, brown-noser, or some kinda corporate drone who drinks the kool-aid and wears the company swag. But maybe I'm misreading? I say this because I'm fairly niche in my skillset for animation and design, and I only really reach out to studios/ agencies for this very specific skillset, and will turn down jobs (or refer others who might be a better fit) where it's better suited for a generalist or outside of my range. Like, I like doing work within my niche, but it's not my everything or even my core identity. Doesn't sound like you're asking potential candidates to profess their undying devotion and pile on gratitude. That's just my take. Felt like people might have been reading your comments in a slightly exaggerated interpretation and it could use some other perspectives.

jensneuse 4y ago
You've got this exactly right. We're not your family. We are an employer. I think we offer a special opportunity. We give our employees a lot of freedom to structure their work day. There's no office, it's all remote. What we're really just looking for is a healthy mix of passion and experience in the field. I believe that people do their best work when it's easy for them to wake up in the morning, they have low stress, they like their colleagues and don't hate the stuff they are working on. Even better if you're passionate about the work you're doing. That gives you a lot of energy to actually perform the work, and for us we're getting great results. This makes our company more valuable, we get more customers and revenue. We can increase your salary and you live a good life. Everybody wins, no? So people should not try to read something into what I wrote above that's simply not there. Tell my why you want to work at WunderGraph. Tell my why you think you'd perform good work. That's all. Please don't write a cover letter. Keep it simple. The best of the best can say a lot with few words.
- carabiner 4y ago
  Is this from Chatgpt? It sounds like generic startup pablum. "We're not like other companies," proceeds to sound like every company.
  - synecdoche 4y ago
    I don't see the issue. Why change a formula that is known to work? How is anyone to know if it's an honest description and their attitude is genuine? That's what reputation is for. Reputation is most valuable in my opinion and that goes for both potential employer and employee. If it's not available proxies may give some indication, or character evaluation by in person meeting. Does the pitch align with how the other side comes across? It's not a 100% guarantee. The rest is risk, which we can't be without.
capybara_2020 4y ago
That is the problem with pitches like this, they sound pretty good, till you have read a ton of these and worked with a few companies like this and have been burnt by them. I guess this highlights the problem with the whole recruitment space. This company put out the equivalent of a bad generic resume while complaining about potential employees putting out bad generic resumes.

jensneuse 4y ago

You've got this exactly right. We're not your family. We are an employer. I think we offer a special opportunity. We give our employees a lot of freedom to structure their work day. There's no office, it's all remote. What we're really just looking for is a healthy mix of passion and experience in the field. I believe that people do their best work when it's easy for them to wake up in the morning, they have low stress, they like their colleagues and don't hate the stuff they are working on. Even better if you're passionate about the work you're doing. That gives you a lot of energy to actually perform the work, and for us we're getting great results. This makes our company more valuable, we get more customers and revenue. We can increase your salary and you live a good life. Everybody wins, no? So people should not try to read something into what I wrote above that's simply not there. Tell my why you want to work at WunderGraph. Tell my why you think you'd perform good work. That's all. Please don't write a cover letter. Keep it simple. The best of the best can say a lot with few words.

carabiner 4y ago
Is this from Chatgpt? It sounds like generic startup pablum. "We're not like other companies," proceeds to sound like every company.
- synecdoche 4y ago
  I don't see the issue. Why change a formula that is known to work? How is anyone to know if it's an honest description and their attitude is genuine? That's what reputation is for. Reputation is most valuable in my opinion and that goes for both potential employer and employee. If it's not available proxies may give some indication, or character evaluation by in person meeting. Does the pitch align with how the other side comes across? It's not a 100% guarantee. The rest is risk, which we can't be without.

capybara_2020 4y ago

That is the problem with pitches like this, they sound pretty good, till you have read a ton of these and worked with a few companies like this and have been burnt by them. I guess this highlights the problem with the whole recruitment space. This company put out the equivalent of a bad generic resume while complaining about potential employees putting out bad generic resumes.