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> People who want fiscally responsible government? The Washington D.C metro is a multi-billion dollar money pit from hell that's mismanaged and filled with gr

by pookah 4y ago

> People who want fiscally responsible government? The Washington D.C metro is a multi-billion dollar money pit from hell that's mismanaged and filled with graft, death and delays. California built a 1 billion dollar bus station that nearly collapsed on itself. In the US, some of the most fiscally un-responsible transportation is public government run transportation.

throw0101c 4y ago
> […] mismanaged and filled with graft, death and delays. So no different than highway construction then? The seventh annual report of Highway Boondoggles: * https://frontiergroup.org/resources/highway-boondoggles/ https://frontiergroup.org/resources/highway-boondoggles/ And let's not forget that it's been empirically measured for decades that building more roads/highways doesn't decrease congestion: * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Induced_demand https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Induced_demand And that car-oriented 'improvements' makes things worse for drivers and worse for those for those taking public transit (often due to not being able to afford a car): > It is a paradox in that improvements in the road network will not reduce traffic congestion. Improvements in the road network can make congestion worse if the improvements make public transport more inconvenient or if they shift investment, causing disinvestment in the public transport system. * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Downs–Thomson_paradox https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Downs–Thomson_paradox And that improving things for non-car users can actually make things better for drivers: * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8RRE2rDw4k https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8RRE2rDw4k * https://fortune.com/2015/09/30/best-country-drive-waze/ https://fortune.com/2015/09/30/best-country-drive-waze/ * https://archive.ph/S4FKM https://archive.ph/S4FKM In no instantiation of the multiverse does the data show that focusing on car-centric development and private automobile transportation is more efficient, from a fiscal or energy point of view, or better for individuals' health and things like climate change. Certainly roads are useful for commerce and trade, but personal transportation? Not so much.
wyre 4y ago
Compared to Uber that hasn’t made a profit in 10 years?
matchbok 4y ago
Highways lose far more money than transit. And death? Really? Please look up how many people die on highways vs buses. You have no idea what you are talking about champ.

by pookah 4y ago

throw0101c 4y ago

> […] mismanaged and filled with graft, death and delays. So no different than highway construction then? The seventh annual report of Highway Boondoggles: * https://frontiergroup.org/resources/highway-boondoggles/ https://frontiergroup.org/resources/highway-boondoggles/ And let's not forget that it's been empirically measured for decades that building more roads/highways doesn't decrease congestion: * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Induced_demand https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Induced_demand And that car-oriented 'improvements' makes things worse for drivers and worse for those for those taking public transit (often due to not being able to afford a car): > It is a paradox in that improvements in the road network will not reduce traffic congestion. Improvements in the road network can make congestion worse if the improvements make public transport more inconvenient or if they shift investment, causing disinvestment in the public transport system. * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Downs–Thomson_paradox https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Downs–Thomson_paradox And that improving things for non-car users can actually make things better for drivers: * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8RRE2rDw4k https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8RRE2rDw4k * https://fortune.com/2015/09/30/best-country-drive-waze/ https://fortune.com/2015/09/30/best-country-drive-waze/ * https://archive.ph/S4FKM https://archive.ph/S4FKM In no instantiation of the multiverse does the data show that focusing on car-centric development and private automobile transportation is more efficient, from a fiscal or energy point of view, or better for individuals' health and things like climate change. Certainly roads are useful for commerce and trade, but personal transportation? Not so much.

wyre 4y ago

Compared to Uber that hasn’t made a profit in 10 years?

matchbok 4y ago

Highways lose far more money than transit. And death? Really? Please look up how many people die on highways vs buses. You have no idea what you are talking about champ.