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In the bottom left? Where it specifically asks you to "Text 'Hillary' to 59925"?

remarkEon 4y ago
That doesn't say "text to vote". It says, as you note, "Text 'Hillary' to 59925". This just looks like ambiguous/poorly worded campaign copy. Is that illegal, though? Apparently there's another image with additional text on it?
- Nullabillity 4y ago
  It is, at the very least, impersonation. And https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35395239 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35395239 (https://d2eehagpk5cl65.cloudfront.net/img/q60/uploads/2021/02/MackeyMeme.jpg https://d2eehagpk5cl65.cloudfront.net/img/q60/uploads/2021/0...) is even more explicit about their intent to defraud.
  - remarkEon 4y ago
    I guess I’m not following (and that second link is broken for me). Suppose I create a positive meme about a campaign, which obviously happens a lot. Is that still “impersonation”? I find what Mackey did really unsavory and gross but I’m not really understanding what the principle being applied here actually is. Are meme/jokes/absurdities about political campaigns not legal?
    - Nullabillity 4y ago
      Hm, I tried mirroring it now then... https://imgur.com/0znBo7v https://imgur.com/0znBo7v Anyway, they are both clearly designed to imply an affiliation with the campaign. It's one thing to state that you support X, it's another thing to claim that you are speaking for or represent them.
      - remarkEon 4y ago
        And claiming this in obvious satire is now illegal? 2024 is coming up real quick, so everyone probably needs to understand the ground rules that this case changed.
- hcknwscommenter 4y ago
  And what happens when you text to 59925? Did you read the whole thing? Would a busy person, who lives in an area likely to have hours long lines to vote be relieved to text that number and receive a reply that says "Thanks for Voting" bother to look further?
  - remarkEon 4y ago
    Is your point that only busy people (and Clinton voters) are stupid enough to think you can vote by text, therefore they were disenfranchised by this meme?
- srotajuu 4y ago
  That argument was found to be implausible, beyond a reasonable doubt, by a jury of his peers.

That doesn't say "text to vote". It says, as you note, "Text 'Hillary' to 59925". This just looks like ambiguous/poorly worded campaign copy. Is that illegal, though? Apparently there's another image with additional text on it?

Nullabillity 4y ago
It is, at the very least, impersonation. And https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35395239 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35395239 (https://d2eehagpk5cl65.cloudfront.net/img/q60/uploads/2021/02/MackeyMeme.jpg https://d2eehagpk5cl65.cloudfront.net/img/q60/uploads/2021/0...) is even more explicit about their intent to defraud.
- remarkEon 4y ago
  I guess I’m not following (and that second link is broken for me). Suppose I create a positive meme about a campaign, which obviously happens a lot. Is that still “impersonation”? I find what Mackey did really unsavory and gross but I’m not really understanding what the principle being applied here actually is. Are meme/jokes/absurdities about political campaigns not legal?
  - Nullabillity 4y ago
    Hm, I tried mirroring it now then... https://imgur.com/0znBo7v https://imgur.com/0znBo7v Anyway, they are both clearly designed to imply an affiliation with the campaign. It's one thing to state that you support X, it's another thing to claim that you are speaking for or represent them.
    - remarkEon 4y ago
      And claiming this in obvious satire is now illegal? 2024 is coming up real quick, so everyone probably needs to understand the ground rules that this case changed.
hcknwscommenter 4y ago
And what happens when you text to 59925? Did you read the whole thing? Would a busy person, who lives in an area likely to have hours long lines to vote be relieved to text that number and receive a reply that says "Thanks for Voting" bother to look further?
- remarkEon 4y ago
  Is your point that only busy people (and Clinton voters) are stupid enough to think you can vote by text, therefore they were disenfranchised by this meme?
srotajuu 4y ago
That argument was found to be implausible, beyond a reasonable doubt, by a jury of his peers.