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Funny, I just found a new job where I got a MacBook Pro for the first time in my life, M2 chip. I am Linux user for 7 years now, and I use OpenSUSE Tumbleweed +
by dgan 4y ago
Funny, I just found a new job where I got a MacBook Pro for the first time in my life, M2 chip.
I am Linux user for 7 years now, and I use OpenSUSE Tumbleweed + XFCE + NVIDIA card, and I literally have 0 problems with it for 2 last years
Opinion on Mac book after using it for barely 3 weeks:
Excellent:
- battery life
- sound
sucks, out of top of my head:
- when you press Enter it wants to rename a file (?? lol)
- terminal hotkeys don't always work (Ctrl + back doesn't delete a word...)
- "fn" is the most left key... instead of control...
- windows management is trash, i cant "magnet" to borders of the screen
- I wasn't able to plug a LG usb mouse (?? apparently I need a tutorial to plug a mouse)
- hotkeys in Pycharm/Intellij are different and not interchangeable
- brew is not as good as zypper
- need to use AppleStore for some applications
- when installing applications they don't seem to be available in terminal ...
- ShrimpHawk 4y agoUse Rectangle[1] for magnet snapping window management. For almost every mac complaint there exists a tool to solve it. [1]https://rectangleapp.com/ https://rectangleapp.com/
- PrimeMcFly 4y ago> For almost every mac complaint there exists a tool to solve it. Instead of running an OS with a ton of little tools and hacks, why not just run on that lets you configure it how you want?
- sshine 4y agoYou configure Linux by installing lots of little tools, too. Mac has defaults, and they seem off when you don't use Mac. Once you accept Mac as your system, you either adopt those defaults or start tweaking them. I think of Mac as a UNIX with an average window manager, but with excellent integrations.
- PrimeMcFly 4y agoI can tweak Linux by adding little tools, sure, but it's very useable even if I don't. And sure, to some extent Mac has a different paradigm, and if you are used to it it won't seem strange. But on top of all of that, objectively, the mac UI is still incredibly limiting and frustrating in ways that no other DE is, even with being familiar with it.
- sshine 4y ago> it's very useable even if I don't That really depends on what you mean by Linux. A feature-rich desktop Linux like Ubuntu, Fedora or openSUSE? These are comparable to MacOS: You may like the defaults, you may not, but the premise is the same. If you’re using anything highly customisable, chances are you have to tweak the system, otherwise there is no system. E.g. Arch not shipping with X11/Wayland by default. The MacOS UI is one of the better desktop environments I’ve encountered and I prefer it over almost any non-tiling desktop environment in Linux. Only i3, xmonad, etc. have a better setup, in my experience, but they require installing and customising.
- Zurrrrr 4y ago> The MacOS UI is one of the better desktop environments I’ve encountered See that's just hard for me to understand. At every point it seems to get in the way. Someone else in this thread made a list of the UI behaviors that they thought were odd, e.g. pressing enter on a file results in a prompt to rename it. I think it's hard to measure and compare UI stuff though, because we become so biased by what we're used and what we find easiest or most comfortable to use.
- 999wl 4y agothanks for the tip!
- KenArrari 4y agoProbably true but if I wanted to deal with endless tweaks, I'd just keep using Linux.
- kingkongjaffa 4y agoRight except you install it and set your hot keys once and then literally never worry about it again.
- ngai_aku 4y ago> terminal hotkeys don't always work (Ctrl + back doesn't delete a word...) Don’t you want M-DEL? Terminal (actually, all text fields in cocoa applications IIRC) use gnu readline commands. https://www.gnu.org/software/bash/manual/html_node/Readline-Killing-Commands.html https://www.gnu.org/software/bash/manual/html_node/Readline-...
- rado 4y agoWindows do snap to edges, maybe it’s too subtle to notice.
- rcarmo 4y ago- the enter command in Finder is a UI convention. Some Linux DEs have a similar one in their file managers. - the OS uses Emacs key bindings throughout in standard input fields. Try it. - Search for “Magnet” or, if you’re a tiling person, “Amethyst” - Mice just work. You may get a dialog for weird HID devices, but I don’t get why you mention a tutorial - hot keys are configurable in every single application - check the system preferences. - brew is not the only option, you can also look into MacPorts (but I wouldn’t recommend it) - there is an “open” CLI command that you can use for to invoke non-CLI apps that do not register themselves in PATH. Use “man open”. Also, look into native CLI tools like sips, etc. There is a lot of CLI goodness in macOS that impatient people overlook.