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I actually agree that I don't think there's anything particularly special about our meat and chemical GPUs, but analog's fidelity has historically been difficul
by chomp 4y ago
I actually agree that I don't think there's anything particularly special about our meat and chemical GPUs, but analog's fidelity has historically been difficult to replicate precisely in digital space. Maybe since we don't care for emotion in our intelligence, we don't need the analog. But I think our brains are a little more (but not that much more) complex than fancy statistics. After all, the math models the real world, not the other way around.
- ChatGTP 4y agoI wrote a massive rant for a response but then I deleted it. I feel sorry for people think about themselves this way, why just compare yourself to a calculator? If it was possible to build an artificial brain that was self-ware, it would probably want to be a lot more like us than you think. To feel and connect, and experience love and what that’s like is a very special part of existence.
- jprete 4y agoThere seem to be a lot of people in this thread who consider themselves to be calculators. I too have to restrain myself from writing massive rants.
- CatWChainsaw 4y agoPeople espousing this opinion seem to have grown quite a lot since ChatGPT first became public. Cynical as I am, I do suspect some astroturfing trying to prepare people for being "obsolete".
- jprete 4y agoI also suspect astroturfing, particularly here, and I also notice it on Substack (I don't visit a whole lot of other sites anymore). On Substack I see two clusters, one group _very into_ AI, the other advocating a lot of caution. I don't think it's preparing people to be obsolete; I think it's a combination of AI startup founders hyping up their tech, and people who identify with big tech/"the side that wants AI".
- CatWChainsaw 4y agoHype no doubt plays a part, which is a perfect cover for any truly malicious astroturfing. But when I say "prepare to be obsolete", I mean prepare to be obsoleteD.
- ChatGTP 4y agoWhat’s the difference ?
- CatWChainsaw 4y agoRight now, billionaires who profess the view that AI could end humanity are working their hardest to progress the field as fast as possible, scoffing at "ethics", "safety", and "responsibility". So if they do get their god-machine, they're not going to look around at 8 billion fellow humans (biological stochastic parrots, according to some) who are suddenly "obsolete", but using up resources, and think "fully automated space luxury communism".
- ChatGTP 4y agoGot it. Definitely feels like some type of play for dominance.
- CatWChainsaw 4y agoWhich leads to the questions, dominance for whom, and over whom. And why, if we're supposedly entering an age of post-scarcity where AI can enable anyone to do anything, we would need dominance in the first place.
- chomp 4y agoI mean, I think distilling my argument down into "I'm not much more than a calculator" is a little bit much, but maybe I was unclear. I just don't think there's magic there. Brains are mysterious, but so are our LLMs, and we invented those. Most of what we experience emotionally isn't magic, it's a complex chemical reaction of hormones applied to our inputs and outputs. But like I said, I don't know if we'd value that in our AI or not, so that complexity may not be necessary to emulate.
- ChatGTP 4y agoI’m going to go out on a limb here but I bet that deep down inside you know that intellect is only one mechanism from trying to understand the infinite complexity of existence.