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Elon is addressing this in the Twitter Space right now. "It definitely shouldn't be dividing people into Republican and Democrats; that makes no sense[...] you'

by montag 4y ago

Elon is addressing this in the Twitter Space right now. "It definitely shouldn't be dividing people into Republican and Democrats; that makes no sense[...] you've identified something we should be getting rid of right away."

franky47 4y ago
We should also not divide people into Elon and non-Elon.
mseepgood 4y ago
Does it make sense to divide people into Elon and not Elon?
- brink 4y ago
  You mean owner and not owner? I think it's fair.
  - dyslexit 4y ago
    For what purpose? Do we know what this is used for?
    - iliane5 4y ago
      Apparently it’s for analytics
  - deleted 4y ago
    [deleted]
  - kaba0 4y ago
    In my hobby project where I have a secret admin page? Sure. In a (formerly) multi-million dollar prod application? Not really fair.
- LiquidSky 4y ago
  To Elon, yes.
- furyofantares 4y ago
  It's not that uncommon to filter analytics based on how much money a user has spent on the platform.
- krapp 4y ago
  It certainly does to Elon.
- seydor 4y ago
  Crazies vs the rest
fnimick 4y ago
It's for content analytics, and I assume it's to make sure that changes to the platform can't be argued to bias one party over another.
- jacquesm 4y ago
  Or one individual over the rest of the world?
- kevviiinn 4y ago
  You mean like this algorithmic bias? https://blog.twitter.com/en_us/topics/company/2021/rml-politicalcontent https://blog.twitter.com/en_us/topics/company/2021/rml-polit...
- duxup 4y ago
  Or even maybe to provide some background to various bits of lingo / acronyms people use. I’m thinking along the lines of common word’s that have vastly different meanings depending on who’s saying it.
- jerlam 4y ago
  So false equivalence is written into the platform. Insane opinions of one party must be displayed as often as moderate opinions of the other. It definitely works for angering everyone on Twitter, not so much for actual dialog or progress. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_equivalence https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_equivalence
Calzifer 4y ago
Well, sounds like this pull request doesn't get merged. https://github.com/twitter/the-algorithm/pull/234 https://github.com/twitter/the-algorithm/pull/234
asddubs 4y ago
but how can we be sure it isn't doing that?! first, we would need to figure out a way to identify who-
Imnimo 4y ago
As if Elon has a clue what that feature is or is not being used for.
- dmix 4y ago
  He didn’t say he knew what it did? It’s a good enough response to say that it shouldn’t be doing that period.
  - dymk 4y ago
    Generally, one should understand chesterton's fence before tearing it down
    - dmix 4y ago
      He was answering a question on the spot live on a video call. Careful consideration can come later by the devs who will investigate. Must be nice to have people hold you to such high standards though. A sign of respect in a way. No matter how strenuous the takes.
      - dymk 4y ago
        Making commitments to things without understanding the basics isn’t something to be respected, it’s just dumb
        dmix 4y ago
        The amount of stretches people make in these threads is amusing. There's enough real things to care about, don't need to set completely unrealistic standards you'd never impose on yourself or 99% of others you didn't already despise.

by montag 4y ago

franky47 4y ago

We should also not divide people into Elon and non-Elon.

mseepgood 4y ago

Does it make sense to divide people into Elon and not Elon?

brink 4y ago
You mean owner and not owner? I think it's fair.
- dyslexit 4y ago
  For what purpose? Do we know what this is used for?
  - iliane5 4y ago
    Apparently it’s for analytics
- deleted 4y ago
  [deleted]
- kaba0 4y ago
  In my hobby project where I have a secret admin page? Sure. In a (formerly) multi-million dollar prod application? Not really fair.
LiquidSky 4y ago
To Elon, yes.
furyofantares 4y ago
It's not that uncommon to filter analytics based on how much money a user has spent on the platform.
krapp 4y ago
It certainly does to Elon.
seydor 4y ago
Crazies vs the rest

fnimick 4y ago

It's for content analytics, and I assume it's to make sure that changes to the platform can't be argued to bias one party over another.

jacquesm 4y ago
Or one individual over the rest of the world?
kevviiinn 4y ago
You mean like this algorithmic bias? https://blog.twitter.com/en_us/topics/company/2021/rml-politicalcontent https://blog.twitter.com/en_us/topics/company/2021/rml-polit...
duxup 4y ago
Or even maybe to provide some background to various bits of lingo / acronyms people use. I’m thinking along the lines of common word’s that have vastly different meanings depending on who’s saying it.
jerlam 4y ago
So false equivalence is written into the platform. Insane opinions of one party must be displayed as often as moderate opinions of the other. It definitely works for angering everyone on Twitter, not so much for actual dialog or progress. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_equivalence https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_equivalence

Calzifer 4y ago

Well, sounds like this pull request doesn't get merged. https://github.com/twitter/the-algorithm/pull/234 https://github.com/twitter/the-algorithm/pull/234

asddubs 4y ago

but how can we be sure it isn't doing that?! first, we would need to figure out a way to identify who-

Imnimo 4y ago

As if Elon has a clue what that feature is or is not being used for.

dmix 4y ago
He didn’t say he knew what it did? It’s a good enough response to say that it shouldn’t be doing that period.
- dymk 4y ago
  Generally, one should understand chesterton's fence before tearing it down
  - dmix 4y ago
    He was answering a question on the spot live on a video call. Careful consideration can come later by the devs who will investigate. Must be nice to have people hold you to such high standards though. A sign of respect in a way. No matter how strenuous the takes.
    - dymk 4y ago
      Making commitments to things without understanding the basics isn’t something to be respected, it’s just dumb
      - dmix 4y ago
        The amount of stretches people make in these threads is amusing. There's enough real things to care about, don't need to set completely unrealistic standards you'd never impose on yourself or 99% of others you didn't already despise.