Don't think either of us are interested in a debate on the definition of the word "skyrocketing." I'd be interested in a survey of New Yorkers on how much they

Don't think either of us are interested in a debate on the definition of the word "skyrocketing." I'd be interested in a survey of New Yorkers on how much they think the murder rate rose from 2019-2020. I suspect they'd be pretty close to the right answer (48%), you think it'd be much higher (if I read you correctly) but without that data we will just have to agree to disagree. > I find it particularly ironic that you complain about mainstream media coverage of Trump, but find it impossible to believe the media could be exaggerating crime rates. This is a good example of the type of statement that passes as meaningful in partisan debates but is actually incoherent. I'm allowed to believe the media fairly reported one thing but not some other unrelated thing. There's no logical connection between the two that demands a consistent treatment. I haven't been caught in some epic contradiction. ...but if you have caught me in a contradiction, and you believe the exact opposite, then aren't we both in the same boat? If x and y cannot both be true then neither can ~x and ~y.