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When your visa is on the line, you’ll do anything

by cvhashim04 4y ago

sabellito 4y ago
Engineers who work at twitter can easily find another job in the US.
- FalconSensei 4y ago
  even considering all the layoffs other companies are doing?
  - sabellito 4y ago
    What do you think is the percentage of companies who did layoffs or have hiring freezes vs companies who are hiring high caliber engineers?
- JohnFen 4y ago
  Can they? I don't know, but I imagine that at this point, everyone still working for Twitter is there because they don't have any other realistic option.
  - DiggyJohnson 4y ago
    That's assuming too much in my opinion. Not everyone has the same or similar opinions regarding their work or Elon, even if it's hard for you to believe.
    - JohnFen 4y ago
      I was basing my speculation purely on the working conditions there, not on any supposition about people's attitudes about their work or Musk. > even if it's hard for you to believe. It's not hard for me to believe at all.
  - kortilla 4y ago
    Only because you are blinded by your own biases. There are people there that think it will be the next spacex or Tesla
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  - darth_avocado 4y ago
    Most people working there are looking for other jobs. It is not hard to find another job, but in this market it is hard to find one that pays the same. A lot of people have 4 year stock grants and annual refreshers, pushing their compensation very high which can only be matched at other tech companies, which currently are not hiring much.
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- PuppyTailWags 4y ago
  It's harder with visas, because you're not gambling if you can find another job, you're gambling if your employer can acquire a visa in time for you to not be deported.
  - sabellito 4y ago
    Posted on another reply, but according to this one link [0] you can start the visa process at a new company while still employed at your current job. 0: https://usvisagroup.com/changing-jobs-h-1b-visa/ https://usvisagroup.com/changing-jobs-h-1b-visa/
    - PuppyTailWags 4y ago
      Right, so it's still justified to feel bad for visa workers in this case, because they are stuck at an abusive workplace because of circumstances of their visa.
- shortrounddev 4y ago
  H1-Bs are harder to get approved these days and a lot of companies don't want to go through the effort/cost to do so
  - sabellito 4y ago
    According to this one link [0], H1B "tranfers" are not subject to visa caps. Plus you can search for new jobs and start the process while still employed. 0: https://usvisagroup.com/changing-jobs-h-1b-visa https://usvisagroup.com/changing-jobs-h-1b-visa
- aetimmes 4y ago
  With forced RTO and "hardcore" mandates, it's difficult to find 6+ hours of time to interview at other companies (assuming there are any open visa sponsorships available).
mlindner 4y ago
Companies can't revoke visas of employees... That's just not how H1B Visas work. Yes they can be fired, but they can go find another job and keep the Visa.

When your visa is on the line, you’ll do anything

sabellito 4y ago

Engineers who work at twitter can easily find another job in the US.

FalconSensei 4y ago
even considering all the layoffs other companies are doing?
- sabellito 4y ago
  What do you think is the percentage of companies who did layoffs or have hiring freezes vs companies who are hiring high caliber engineers?
JohnFen 4y ago
Can they? I don't know, but I imagine that at this point, everyone still working for Twitter is there because they don't have any other realistic option.
- DiggyJohnson 4y ago
  That's assuming too much in my opinion. Not everyone has the same or similar opinions regarding their work or Elon, even if it's hard for you to believe.
  - JohnFen 4y ago
    I was basing my speculation purely on the working conditions there, not on any supposition about people's attitudes about their work or Musk. > even if it's hard for you to believe. It's not hard for me to believe at all.
- kortilla 4y ago
  Only because you are blinded by your own biases. There are people there that think it will be the next spacex or Tesla
  - deleted 4y ago
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- darth_avocado 4y ago
  Most people working there are looking for other jobs. It is not hard to find another job, but in this market it is hard to find one that pays the same. A lot of people have 4 year stock grants and annual refreshers, pushing their compensation very high which can only be matched at other tech companies, which currently are not hiring much.
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PuppyTailWags 4y ago
It's harder with visas, because you're not gambling if you can find another job, you're gambling if your employer can acquire a visa in time for you to not be deported.
- sabellito 4y ago
  Posted on another reply, but according to this one link [0] you can start the visa process at a new company while still employed at your current job. 0: https://usvisagroup.com/changing-jobs-h-1b-visa/ https://usvisagroup.com/changing-jobs-h-1b-visa/
  - PuppyTailWags 4y ago
    Right, so it's still justified to feel bad for visa workers in this case, because they are stuck at an abusive workplace because of circumstances of their visa.
shortrounddev 4y ago
H1-Bs are harder to get approved these days and a lot of companies don't want to go through the effort/cost to do so
- sabellito 4y ago
  According to this one link [0], H1B "tranfers" are not subject to visa caps. Plus you can search for new jobs and start the process while still employed. 0: https://usvisagroup.com/changing-jobs-h-1b-visa https://usvisagroup.com/changing-jobs-h-1b-visa
aetimmes 4y ago
With forced RTO and "hardcore" mandates, it's difficult to find 6+ hours of time to interview at other companies (assuming there are any open visa sponsorships available).

mlindner 4y ago

Companies can't revoke visas of employees... That's just not how H1B Visas work. Yes they can be fired, but they can go find another job and keep the Visa.