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I'm not opposed to social media feeds having complex recommendation algorithms. I just wish they allowed you to opt in to a reverse chronological feed of only p

I'm not opposed to social media feeds having complex recommendation algorithms. I just wish they allowed you to opt in to a reverse chronological feed of only people you follow, like RSS.

infogulch 4y ago
Twitter has this now. The home page is split into two tabs: "For you", the algorithmic feed, and "Following", the reverse chronological feed of just who you follow.
- BbzzbB 4y ago
  It always had it. Edit: Why am I downvoted? It literally did, it even was named as you'd expect it ("sort by latest" or something), tho the location was less obvious as it was under the stars icon above the feed.
- LiquidPolymer 4y ago
  On my “following” tab (on the phone app) , I’m still getting recommendations for bomb throwers I don’t follow. Am I weird? It’s like an unhinged relative. Not pleasant. Edit: I reversed “for you” and “following” in my original reply.
  - EamonnMR 4y ago
    I sometimes get these as push notifications with my username added to them.
    - valarauko 4y ago
      I find these notifications so confusing - at first glance they look like DMs or mentions to me. I don't follow these people, nor were they RT by anybody I know.
      - EamonnMR 4y ago
        Probably lots of engagement due to that confusion though.
- madeofpalk 4y ago
  Twitter has always had "chronological timeline" behind a confusing "sparkle" button (except for a brief period a few months back where they removed it, or always defaulted to back to algo timeline? and then restored it a week later) They called it "Latest Tweets" https://web.archive.org/web/20200205092104/https://help.twitter.com/en/using-twitter/twitter-timeline https://web.archive.org/web/20200205092104/https://help.twit...
  - dmonitor 4y ago
    immediately getting rid of the sparkle button is one of the few reasons i still have a small amount of faith in elon’s vision of twitter
    - Laaas 4y ago
      - Open sourcing this - Lists as tabs - _Heavily_ reduced spam - Can look at Twitter without logging in I'm likely missing some other obvious/uncontroversially good changes. I still use Twitter and plan to continue using it. I am satisfied with most of his changes.
      - astrange 4y ago
        There's not any less spam. How could there be when he laid off all the antispam people? If you expand "see more tweets" sometimes there's normal tweets hiding down there and sometimes it's a bot trying to sell you guns.
        suddenclarity 4y ago
        How? By having different requirements and implementing another solution? Look at the guy behind YouTube purge tool. One guy accomplished more than YouTube have done for years. Why? No one knows but it's definitely not because lack of resources. I've definitely seen less spam during the last months.
        4y ago
- spike021 4y ago
  It doesn't always stay on whatever you last used, though. I mostly use Following but it always inevitably ends up back on "For you".
- conradfr 4y ago
  Is really "Following" the entire chronological feed? I feel I miss tweets from people I follow that actually appears in the "For You" tab.
  - anigbrowl 4y ago
    It's not. I follow a fairly small # of people (~500) and getting people to reliably show up in is a long-running problem. Following is not enough, you have to favorite or somehow interact with them sufficiently to be sure of seeing all their tweets. It's quite annoying.
    - cubefox 4y ago
      Are you sure? I didn't notice something like this.
      - anigbrowl 4y ago
        Very sure. I started noticing the issue a couple of years ago (well before Musk's arrival) because I'd find myself thinking 'I haven't seen anything from ____ in a while, I should follow that person', only to discover that I was already following them and their tweets were just not showing up. New follows will generally pop up reliably, but if someone has fallen out of your regular feed you have to work to put them back into it. Just now (as I am writing this comment) went to check on someone I saw an interview with the other day, and sure enough I am still following the person and they have been tweeting a few times a day, but I haven't been seeing any of it. Other weird things are Twitter's habit of just preemptively muting people (I'll sometimes wonder why a person didn't reply and go back to reread a conversation, only to discover that they did reply; and conversely, people that I have muted or blocked showing up in my search results for a trending topic. Most of the people I manually mute are 'influencers' who use software, staff, or pure obsession to get in the first reply to politicians and the like, a behavior I find insufferably annoying even if I agree with their position. I'm very interested in politics, but almost all my mutes/blocks are people of somewhat-similar political persuasion that Twitter assumes I would want to see, and insists on showing me despite my best efforts. I want to keep tabs on the arguments of people I strenuously disagree with, because I already know my own opinions and don't need validation. It's easier in some respects to maintain a second account with an uber-conservative persona and let the recommendation engine just feed it with more of the same.
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I'm not opposed to social media feeds having complex recommendation algorithms. I just wish they allowed you to opt in to a reverse chronological feed of only people you follow, like RSS.

infogulch 4y ago

Twitter has this now. The home page is split into two tabs: "For you", the algorithmic feed, and "Following", the reverse chronological feed of just who you follow.

BbzzbB 4y ago
It always had it. Edit: Why am I downvoted? It literally did, it even was named as you'd expect it ("sort by latest" or something), tho the location was less obvious as it was under the stars icon above the feed.
LiquidPolymer 4y ago
On my “following” tab (on the phone app) , I’m still getting recommendations for bomb throwers I don’t follow. Am I weird? It’s like an unhinged relative. Not pleasant. Edit: I reversed “for you” and “following” in my original reply.
- EamonnMR 4y ago
  I sometimes get these as push notifications with my username added to them.
  - valarauko 4y ago
    I find these notifications so confusing - at first glance they look like DMs or mentions to me. I don't follow these people, nor were they RT by anybody I know.
    - EamonnMR 4y ago
      Probably lots of engagement due to that confusion though.
madeofpalk 4y ago
Twitter has always had "chronological timeline" behind a confusing "sparkle" button (except for a brief period a few months back where they removed it, or always defaulted to back to algo timeline? and then restored it a week later) They called it "Latest Tweets" https://web.archive.org/web/20200205092104/https://help.twitter.com/en/using-twitter/twitter-timeline https://web.archive.org/web/20200205092104/https://help.twit...
- dmonitor 4y ago
  immediately getting rid of the sparkle button is one of the few reasons i still have a small amount of faith in elon’s vision of twitter
  - Laaas 4y ago
    - Open sourcing this - Lists as tabs - _Heavily_ reduced spam - Can look at Twitter without logging in I'm likely missing some other obvious/uncontroversially good changes. I still use Twitter and plan to continue using it. I am satisfied with most of his changes.
    - astrange 4y ago
      There's not any less spam. How could there be when he laid off all the antispam people? If you expand "see more tweets" sometimes there's normal tweets hiding down there and sometimes it's a bot trying to sell you guns.
      - suddenclarity 4y ago
        How? By having different requirements and implementing another solution? Look at the guy behind YouTube purge tool. One guy accomplished more than YouTube have done for years. Why? No one knows but it's definitely not because lack of resources. I've definitely seen less spam during the last months.
        4y ago
spike021 4y ago
It doesn't always stay on whatever you last used, though. I mostly use Following but it always inevitably ends up back on "For you".
conradfr 4y ago
Is really "Following" the entire chronological feed? I feel I miss tweets from people I follow that actually appears in the "For You" tab.
- anigbrowl 4y ago
  It's not. I follow a fairly small # of people (~500) and getting people to reliably show up in is a long-running problem. Following is not enough, you have to favorite or somehow interact with them sufficiently to be sure of seeing all their tweets. It's quite annoying.
  - cubefox 4y ago
    Are you sure? I didn't notice something like this.
    - anigbrowl 4y ago
      Very sure. I started noticing the issue a couple of years ago (well before Musk's arrival) because I'd find myself thinking 'I haven't seen anything from ____ in a while, I should follow that person', only to discover that I was already following them and their tweets were just not showing up. New follows will generally pop up reliably, but if someone has fallen out of your regular feed you have to work to put them back into it. Just now (as I am writing this comment) went to check on someone I saw an interview with the other day, and sure enough I am still following the person and they have been tweeting a few times a day, but I haven't been seeing any of it. Other weird things are Twitter's habit of just preemptively muting people (I'll sometimes wonder why a person didn't reply and go back to reread a conversation, only to discover that they did reply; and conversely, people that I have muted or blocked showing up in my search results for a trending topic. Most of the people I manually mute are 'influencers' who use software, staff, or pure obsession to get in the first reply to politicians and the like, a behavior I find insufferably annoying even if I agree with their position. I'm very interested in politics, but almost all my mutes/blocks are people of somewhat-similar political persuasion that Twitter assumes I would want to see, and insists on showing me despite my best efforts. I want to keep tabs on the arguments of people I strenuously disagree with, because I already know my own opinions and don't need validation. It's easier in some respects to maintain a second account with an uber-conservative persona and let the recommendation engine just feed it with more of the same.

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